Pip collie lab x cushings arthritis

[juile]

Hi everyone

I just giving you and update regarding my golden baby boy.
Well things got very bad from last thursday Pip couldn't walk or even get up .we had to help up to go in to the garden and support him while he went to the toilet by Easter i was in tears as things just wasn't improving (my mum uses a deep freeze spray for her back and joints so i asked my if i could just try on Pip)and it worked he was able to stand up unaided by 11am easter day he was playing and running about so i contiuned to use on him and we haven't look back except today as he had a bath i didnt use today and i frontlined him.
Went to the vets today told her how pip was and what i used she logged of the practice page and went onto google and typed in what i was using she hasn't got a problem with me using that at all afterlooking what was in it she just double checked which i was using as there are some with anti inflammotorys but this on hasn't so shes fine if it works not a problem.
Pip is still food food food and drinking alot she said after his las results she couldn't put his vetoryl up as he was his levels where 11 and they should range is between 30 and 50 ,
We are retesting him again on the 8th may where its likely she will put his vetoryl back up to 2 daily (as pips levels are either to HIGH or to LOW)We have only had 1 blood test where he has been perfect with his readings.
I asked if he could be diabetic she said NO he was tested in march an they where fine as checks pip regulary for diabetes with being a cushing dog .his liver is fine .although she did say his cholesterol was up (didn't really understand and she didn't say anything else)
Today she checked his claws as some of them are starting to fall out not break or snap they come whole , so we have to keep a watchful eye
As i email you my golden most handsome boy is asleep with his head on his mums lap
(i know to some people he not handsome just a fat dog but to me and the people that really know pip he's handsome)
We had alot of people ask us Pip must of won best in show alot and has noe retired my mum said NO his just a normal rescue dog. i told he's not just a rescue hes our boy and you should be very very proud when people say that to as they are making a complement about my boy and you just say his a rescue,
Pip has lost weight he went upto 38 kilos and his now going not by much but he's 35.5 kilos:D

thats my news on my golden boy
hope you all had a nice easter
Julie Pip

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Julie! :D

As you know, I am THRILLED that you and Pip are finally here with us once again! :D:cool::D:cool::D

That was a good thought you had to try the freeze spray on Pip! I doubt that would have ever occurred to me. My sister-in-law uses it and simply swears by it so I am glad to know Pip is getting some relief from it, too. Amazing how quick it worked!

2 1/2 kilos may not be a whole lot, but it sounds like you have found the key to helping him lose weight after all you have tried, and every little bit helps. If I could drop a ton or two, my knees would be much happier! :p I bet Pip can tell the difference already! :) Even a few ounces can mean alot to pups sometimes!

In looking for you, folks all over England have now heard the names, Julie and Pip, so you tell your mom and anyone who asks, that we think Pip is more than "best in show"....he and his mom are world champions!!!

Hugs and welcome HOME,
Leslie and the girls

[labblab]

Oh Julie, I'm so glad to see you, too!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

I'm so happy that Alison got your address, and Leslie is not kidding -- she has been doing everything in her power and contacting everyone she could think of to find you and Pip...:o You are both well-loved here and you were sorely missed.

Speaking of "sore," I'm also relieved to hear that Pip seems to be feeling better now that you are using the freeze spray. I don't know what that is, so I will have to look into it myself, since my elbow is acting up after pruning my hedge!

Thanks, AS ALWAYS, for this update.
It is so good to have you and your sweet, handsome boy back with us again.
Marianne

[Carol G]

Julie,

I'm so happy you found your way here.

That is wonderful that the spray is working on Pip. I am battling arthritis with my boy McGill so I'd like to know the name of what you are using.

Again, I am so happy handsome Pip is doing well.

Carol, Winnie (always), McGill & Atty

[mytil]

Oh Julie,

I too am so very glad you are here and thank you so much for the update on Pip - we were so worried.

I am glad he has some comfort and please keep us updated.

Terry

[LuvMyMunchie]

Hi Julie,

I, like those who have posted before me, am so happy you and your handsome boy Pip are with us again!

I've never heard of the freeze spray either but would certainly like to know what it is so I could learn more about it. I am glad it is giving relief to Pip. Is he back to chasing after the Kitty cats again??

Thanks for your update. Always interested in seeing how you and your boy are doing.

Louise & Munchie

[juile]

thank you for your replies.its great to be back.Pips still doing fine can't stop him at the moment using the freeze spray

julie pip:)

[barney's mom]

Hi Julie,
Glad to hear that the freeze spray is working for Pip!


Cheryl

[Roxee'sDad]

Hi Julie,
Welcome back, glad Pip is doing better:).

Can you tell me more about this freeze spray? Name, is it a prescription?

Thanks & Give Pip a belly rub from us.
John (Roxee's Dad)

P.S. BTW - Rescue dogs are the best, they have saved many a human, and they always have a special place in my heart. Glad Pip found you.

[barney's mom]

Hi Julie,
Welcome back, glad Pip is doing better:).

Can you tell me more about this freeze spray? Name, is it a prescription?

Thanks & Give Pip a belly rub from us.
John (Roxee's Dad)

P.S. BTW - Rescue dogs are the best, they have saved many a human, and they always have a special place in my heart. Glad Pip found you.

Well said!

[juile]

Here a link to the freeze spray i use on pip

www.deepfreeze.co.uk THIS IS THE ONE I USE AS ITS DOESNT HAVE ANY ANTI INFLAMMTORYS IN MY VET HAS ALREADY SHECK THE INGREDIENTS AND DOES NOT HAVE A PROBLEM USING ON PIP THERE ARE SOME FREEZE SPRAY OUT THERE THAT DO CONTAIN ANTI INFLAMMTORY'S
bUT PIP CAN STAY ON HIS PAIN RELIEF MEDICATIION WITH THE ONE I USE
TWICE ADAY MORNING AND EVENING I SPRAY ON ALL HIS JOINTS STAND NEAR HIS FACE SO THE MIST FROM THE SPRAY DOESN'T GET IN HIS FACE. JUST SPRAY AND MASSAGE .HE PLAYING AND RUNNING.
AS I'VE SAO=ID IT WORKS FOR HIM.
jULIE pIP

[juile]

Just to update you all

Pip is fine but he will not being having his ACTH STIM on the 8th may pips doing great its just like having a pup again i've been painting the fence over the weekend and pip eeps trying to run off with the brush to get some attention. the reason being i at the hospital again to see the consultant at the deaf clinic on thursday.then on the 8th of may i at the hospital to talk about surgery for my deafness' so that the reason i've had to cancel his acth stim as there no way i will be back to get him to the vets and noone esle is aviaqble to take him so i've had to reschedule
julie pip

[gpgscott]

Hi Julie,

I hope he runs your legs off:D

Thanks for posting the information about the freeze spray, I also know nothing about it.

Scott

[LuvMyMunchie]

Julie,

I am glad Pip is feeling so much better and wanted to wish you all the best with your consultation at the deaf clinic and your appointment at the hospital regarding possible surgery for your deafness. This is exciting news.

Sending lots of scritchies for your boy, Pip and positive thoughts for you.

Louise & Munchie

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Julie,

I can just see Pip snatching that brush and taking off with you hot on his tail! :D That is a most pleasant, satisfying image! :D:D And, like Scott, I hope he keeps you running and jumping!

The surgery possibility sounds wonderful and I'm sure it is exciting for you! Please do keep us informed on how it goes for you. I will be praying for the best outcome possible!!! And lighting a candle or two as well.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[juile]

BAD NEWS REGARDING MY BOY.(HIS NOT IN ANY PAIN)

Pip has had a very very nasty fall,and he could not get up at all every time he trie he just can not get up this happened at 1pm today he got up on his legs at 4pm tonight and his legs just gave way .then at 6.30pmpip had another nasty fall he just doesn't seem to have the strength on his back legs to support him.i(i've used the free freeze spray he's not any pain as he will let me touch ) he needs support to go to the toilet or he will be on the floor.
Right now he's in bed i've keeping checking on him to make sure hes ok.
I have to coleect some medication tomorrow morning for him so will have a word with the vet.They may just say rest him for a few days.and if hes know better bring him back
My mum says just rest him as he's been ruuning playing cat chasing and of course running of with my paint brush he has just over done it as its the first time in a long time that he's not been in any pain
OR AM I JUST A STUPDI OVERPROTECTIVE MUM?????????
aBOUT ME I'M NOT LOOKING FORWARD ABOUT THE SURGREY AS I HAVE VEY LONG HAIR AND THEY WILL HAVE TO SHAVE QUITE ABIT OF AND I LOVE MY HAIR. IVE BEEN DEAF ALL MY LIFE .AND IN THE LAST 9 MTHS STILL GETTING USE TO THE HEARING AID AN MY RIGHT SIDE WHICH I DO NOT LIKE AS MY WORLD HAS ALWAYS BEEN QUITE SO MY BRIAN HAS TO ADJUST TO SOUND
TILL I TAKE MY HEARING AID OUT THEN ITS NICE AND QUITE AGAIN
I WILL LOOK STUPID WITH MY HAIS SHAVED ON THEE LEFT WITH LONG ON THE RIGHT SIDE
JULIE PIP

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Julie,

It may be that Pip has just overdone recently but I think I would have the vet check him out just to be sure. With the spray keeping his pain away, he may have hurt himself and not be feeling it like he usually would. So I would take him in....but I am an overprotective mom! ;):)

I can't imagine being in your place. Your hair will grow back just as pretty as ever, I'm sure. In the meantime, you can just set the new trend over there! :p:D But there really is a LOT of racket out in the hearing world and it's easy for me to see how it would take your brain a great deal of adjustment to deal with it. Certain types of sounds get to me, they make me anxious and I can't wait till they end or I can get away from them. I love being up in the wee hours of the morning because it is so very quiet and still. Among all the racket, Julie, you will also hear such beauty that it will bring tears to your eyes and an lump to your throat. You have a strength and courage that is admirable.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[labblab]

Hi Julie,

I am hoping to "second" everything that Leslie just wrote to you! Everything she said is so right and so true. I am packing tonight for a trip (going to a family wedding), so I do not have much time to post. I won't be back until next week, but I'll be thinking of you and Pip and everyone here who is near and dear to me!!!!!

As always, sending (((hugs))) to you and to our dear boy ~
Mariannne

[juile]

Hi Lesile,

Thanks for youe advice.
Today Pip is up and walking and his legs are not giving way when he stands up he's just pottering in the garden altough he had i little walk early this morning .;
Spoke to the vet nurse when i collected his medication this afternoon.they advice caution and just rest him for a couple of days.and not let him oiver due as pip needs a hip replacement .but with him being a cushings he would be high dependenacy also the weight is an issues they said would do the surgery upto the age 13 or 14 these surgeon on does large dogs .Anyway lost the track becuse his a cushings pup weight is another factor he told my vet that if he did now and the hip doesn't set theres nothing left for pip so the aim is to get him down to 28kilos and go from there my vet said pip being cushings and the physio afterwards he doesn't have the stamnia as he gets tired very easily
but if he know better after resting and taking things slowly they will get him to see a vet.
But as we know everything that life throws Pips way he just to battle on and get over there courage hes has is amazing when i sometimes think has nothing left its like he smacks me in the face with a wake call not to give up even if he feel really poorly and you can tell by looking at he will still get his toys out and play for a while the just go off to his bed for a few hours maybe the rest of the day .
then there are days when his plays all day running around walks everywhere i go hes there which i love cos his my boy.then a coupple days after it catches up with him and just chills out for a day or so (i really miss him when hes not following me about as we've only been away from each other for 1 night and thats when he had major surgery.and had to stay in the vets iwas gutted that i never got him own till the following day SAD I KNOW)the vet said pip would be bettwer at home with huis mum as they couldn't get him to eat they tried and treid but still so they said if i could get him to eat something i could take him home and he eat for his mum.
sorry for boring you all if you.ve made it this far down
Julie Pippie

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Julie,

You're never boring! :p

Pip's good days/bad days sound like me! :rolleyes: Get up feeling good so I go and do, then the next few days I sit and moan & groan, popping pain pills! :o But those good days sure are nice so I don't blame Pip for ripping around when he's up to it! :p

Our Ruby needs a hip replacement more than likely but that's just not in the cards. :( She's our big baby, weighs about 50 lbs. She still climbs the stairs but it's hard on her at times. Then she has times when she jumps and romps around the living room like a puppy! I'm always afraid she'll fall and that will be that, but Jim says let her be happy and he's right. I give her Tramadol when she's in pain but that's not very often. After seeing her Xray, I know she had to hurt more than she shows! They are tough little souls, aren't they?

I'm glad Pip is feeling better and that there was nothing new for him to have to deal with! :eek: :D

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[juile]

Just a quick update on pip.

He's back running about and playing .In the next few days i will getting Pips pool so he can go and play in there and have fun while i'm getting my garden sorted out.
My problem he has all his cushings syptoms full on i can cope with the excessive panting but the food or the drinking is getting really bad my vet won't do anything as his readings where low she say we just have to grin and bear until he has his next acth stim on 15th may? i went to collect some medication for him tonight and ask the vet nurse if the could test him for diabetes when hes in for his next acth stim she said she has tested him a few times and is happy he doesnt have diabetes (but my vet also said there was no way he had cushings)but we did the 8 hr test and he was caught at the right time as his levels where very high before and after .I say i know my dog and its not like pip to be hungry all the time and thirsty just usually when his cushings plays up and we adjust his meds and his ok .MY vet thinks its behavoiural with pip but no matter how much i feed him fresh veg and his daily allowance hes gone FOOD MAD 'I just dont know what to da anymore .
Pip doesnt think i'm going to naughty to get food his a dog. so i cant understand this hes never been a big eater until a couple of years ago then he was diagnosed with cushings started Vetoryl and his appietite decreased just never got the weight of him which is a big problem.so something else must be going on for him to be hungry all the time,.we've done thyroid test and his low but that comes with a cushings dog .i think they are feed up with pip i sometimes wonder how he would be if he wasn't on such alot of medication
any way thats all
julie Pip

[juile]

just a quick update Pip is doing fine he's in his pool playing and splashing everyone that walks past him in the garden .he still very FOOD MAD but he's not getting anything except his daily allowance and his veg.
Although i dont think food will really be a problem as he likes to be in his pool all day and most of the night hes in the shade where the sun can't harm him (IT'S REALLY ABATTLE TO GET HIM OUT OF THE POOL AS he perfers playing in there andno amount of bribing can get him out pool but eventually he gets out doesnt like me very much after i ve made him get out but hey its tough being pip really NOT)
well thats all
julie;)

[Carol G]

Hi Julie,

I'm so happy to hear Pip is doing fine and enjoying his pool.

Carol, Winnie (always), McGill & Atty Cat

[Lulusmom]

Hi Julie,

I can't even tell you how big my smile was after reading about Pip in the pool. That was a great way to start my day so thanks for sharing.

Glynda

[LuvMyMunchie]

Hi Julie,

Glad to hear Pip is doing better again. Maybe being in his pool and the cool water helps his hip and joints??? Must do your heart good to see him playing and having fun. Does mine good just hearing about it. :D

Louise

[gpgscott]

Hi Julie,

You have been through so many ups and downs. I am glad Pip is doing better and hope you both enjoy the spring.

Scott

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Julie,

So good to hear this report on Pip! The pool may really help his legs feel better not to mention cool him off. It's really neat that he likes it so well! :cool:

Squirt just hates water and after her leg surgery I was told to take her swimming 4 times a week. So we would go out to the lake, I would walk out as far as I could holding Squirt, then put her in the water and she would swim for the shore like mad! Then the chase was on to catch her again and take her back out. She hated the water part but the chase was great fun and a big game to her! :p Needless to say, we both slept like rocks on swim days! :D

Hugs to you both,
Leslie and the girls

[juile]

:):):)Hi everyone


Just to let you know things are very good with pip (i bet you are expecting bad news but i don't have any for you)he perfect playing running and just being a dog rolling cat chasing

Ihoping to put some picture's of pip in the gallery with honey my baby girl they are the last photos of us 3 before she died. (she was a very very poorly girl too and if you knew her would be able to tell from the photo. akthough i a little worried on putting her on as she was a big girl to and i don't want people being horrid about her the reason was cancer and the vet couldn't take the tumors away as if they missed one cell if would have killed her out right so i may just crop her out not sure .

Anyway going back to my lad his in top all kinds of mischief again although he does get tired very easily his still up for loads of fun i do alot of crafts and he runs of with my things when he thinks i've spent to much time crafting the other day i was sprinkling glitter and pip came up nudge me and the glitter went all over him now this is a new game for him.
Also he's being doing some jobs for my mum as she is disabled he helps her by pulling the washing from the machine into the basket and pushes over to the troyble dryer and put the washing in there if my mum drops anything he will pick up for her.he does quite alot for her. no one ever taught he just did _(i sometimes think pip is wasted with me as he would have been a good for the disable ) its not very often he has a grumpy mood even when he really in pain .
sorry for going on
julie pip

[Carol G]

Hi Julie,

That makes me so happy to hear how well Pip is doing. I'm looking forward to seeing your pictures in the gallery and don't you even think about cropping out Honey.

That is wonderful how Pip helps your mum! I'm sure it makes him feel so proud.

Carol, Winnie (always), McGill & Atty Cat

[LuvMyMunchie]

Julie,

Great to hear everything is still going well for Pip. That is fantastic how Pip assists your mum all on his own with no special training. Wow! Munchie needs to take some lessons from Pip!!! :D

Louise

[ladysmom06]

Hi Julie,

Just to let you know things are very good with pip (i bet you are expecting bad news but i don't have any for you)he perfect playing running and just being a dog rolling cat chasing


Happy:D:D to hear that Pip is doing so well. I can just imagine how happy this makes you feel. Hugs to you and Pip.

[Truffa's Mom]

Hi Julie & Pip. I was fascinated by your story. You truly have an amazing spirit and for sure Pip is your canine reflection.

Glad to hear that Pip is doing better, love the stories around the pool. Hydrotherapy and that miracle deep freeze sounds like a perfect combination for him, it will help him loose weight and exercise her legs effectively.

I think you're doing good with the weight loss program. As Leslie said, any ounce less for them is a big improvement; believe me, we've being fighting obesity in Truffa even before cushings. She eats so little that sometimes I feel guilty. When we finally crossed the line below 78 pounds (35 kilos), we where super happy, 2 months later we were 86 pounds (38.7 kilos)....well my husband was here so they got a "little" of his cooking - every meal during the weekends, and during the week a "little bit" of his supper.....and for a senior dog with cushings that's a lot!!!. So my hubby had some new rules : either you go work around USA or South America, or the only thing you're getting at night when you're home are veggies, or you'll have to toughen up and not cave when you see the "begging eyes". So he is working in South America for 2 months and we are on a strict diet now.

I am crazy freaky natural person now and I started Truffa on a weight loss supplement that I am going to try.

http://www.petnaturals.com/vitamins_supplements/k9-slim-down-plus.php
Today we finished one bottle of http://www.shop.petfriendly.com/product.sc;jsessionid=35C057AF994D22F752309B8F89D4 4663.qscstrfrnt03?productId=78&categoryId=7, and we are going to be weight :D.

The other thing is the coconut Oil, which helps with mobility problems, weight loss and apparently a lot more health issues : http://ptpetsupply.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/crazyaboutcoconut.doc, http://nutiva.com/articles/healthy-dogs-use-coconut-oil/

I will keep you & Pip in my thoughts. What about a pretty scarf around your head while the other side of your hair grows up?. I'll bet you'd look more pretty than you are right now.

Marcela & the Choco Labs

[juile]

Just need some advice please.

Has anyone with a cushings dog ever had trouble with the dogs ears .AS JUST OVER A YEAR PIP HAS CONSTANT PAIN WITH HIS EARS SOMETIMES JUST A LITTLE WAX (i CLEAN HIS EARS EVERY DAY) SOEMTIMES EAR INFECTIONS, BUT LIKE NOW THEY ARE VERY RED AND IRRTAING THE LIFE OUT OF HIM HE TILYS HIS HEAD I'VE CLEANED THEM TODAY BUT NOTHING HAS COME OUT.ALSO WHEN I GO TO WIPE THE FLAPS WITH COTTON WOOL AND JUST INSIDE THE EARDRUM HE CRIES

His still fine just don't know about his ears they seem to get harder the ear cleaner /drops they give as it loopks like his ear canal is narrowing (my vet did say that his canal isw narrowing
Iwould be very greatful for any advice
thank you
julie

[juile]

just to let you know pip at vets as ears are so painful and discomfort he cant take any more so i'm off to get hom checked out
juile

[juile]

update on my boy after his vet visit this afternoon.
Seem's as though Pip has chronic ear problems. His ears are clean (the vet said his ears cant get any cleaner) there is no wax no mites no forgien body.
When he looked in Pip's ears he said they are clean as i've already said but there is a creamy white colour he said its some type of infection the name is called pseudomonas it's not like your normal ear infection this 1 is harder to treat apperantly .I asked if there was anything i could do to prevent this happening with Pip and the vet said no once they get this type of i=ear infection he will always get it .
the vet gave Pip his first lot of ear drops while he were at the practice and showed me who to put this in i have to go all the way down the canal
and also gave him some anti biotics the same as the ear drops
AURIZON EAR DROPS TWICE DAILY
MARBOCYL pTABLETS 80MG TWICE DAILY.
they want to see him in a week .Pip is in for his acth stim on friday at 12pm. then i have to go to hospital to deaf clinic then have another appointment with the vet at 5.10pm friday evening so Pip will stay with vet until i get there to discuss his ears .

julie

[Patricia ann Wh]

Hi Julie,

There is a product that I use for everything. My dog's uti cleared up so fast it even blew me away. Its Mesosilver. Yes, its been around forever, but this is the only one I would ever dream of using. It is the only SAFE silver on the market. My girlfriends 2 dogs had some kind of skin infection and they were on antibiotics forever, this (spraying it on) cleared it up in no time. Really.

http://www.colloidsforlife.com/silver_Ear_Infection.html

http://www.colloidal-silver-colloids.com/contrib/mesosilver-testimonials.htm

Its for topical use and internal use.
Read up on it, I know it seems too good to be true.
I don't know why people are so afraid of things that have been around forever, try this, I'm telling you - it works.

Its so safe you can use it for conjuctivitis, I have a friend that has used it on her dog - sprayed it right in her eyes, it cleared up - after trying 2 rounds of antibiotics!!!

Patti:)

[juile]

Hi Patti,
thanks for the link i will have a look and research Pip is out for the count he's not even woke up for his food and he's very food mad at the moment.
I've just uploaded some photo's of with Honey on the gallery but have done as a PRIVATE ALBUM so only members that contact me can see.
Thanks again
Ju Pip

[Wylie's Mom]

Hi Julie,

I've never posted on your thread before. Last summer, Wylie was bothered by his left ear. I looked inside and it was red (inflammed). My regular vet was too busy to see him immediately - I didn't know what it was at the time and didn't want to wait, so I took him to another vet. It turned out to be an ear infection. Wylie never had an ear infection before, as far as I know (I had him since he was 2-1/2 yrs old). Then 2 weeks later, he had a skin infection...and to make a long story short, he then got diagnosed with Cushing's and we believe these infections had to do with his lowered immune system due to Cushing's. I'm not familiar with pseudomonas, but I wonder how controlled Pip's cortisol levels are and wonder if this infection can be controlled better if the Cushing's is controlled better:confused:.

-Susy

[juile]

Hi Susy,
Thank you over the last tear or so Pip has had truble with his ears i asked my normal vet if could be his cushing at the start she said no .but before pip was diagnosed with the cushing he never ever had anything wrong with his ears
Pip is in next friday for his acth stim/


LABBLAB
hope you found the photo's of pip and honey

julie

[SasAndYunah]

Hi Julie,

sorry to hear that Pip has problems with his ears. Was there a bacterial culture done to make sure it is (solely) pseudomonas? And if so, was there also an antibiogram done to determine to wich antibiotic this particular strain of pseudomonas is sensitive for?

Also, cleaning Pip's ears every day is not a good idea. It will destroy the natural balance in his ears. One way or the other, all earcleaners are "aggressive' when used daily....so you better not do that anymore :)

And one other thing, did the vet mention that the Aurizon eardrops contain Dexamethasone? And did the vet mention that the Marbocyl can have side effects that could be confused with Cushing's problems? The side effetcs of Marbocyl can include vomitting, soft(er) stools, hyperactivity, changing drinking pattern...so you see why these side effects could be confused with Cushings problems :)

Whising you and Pip all the best,

Saskia and Yunah :)

[juile]

thank you no the vet didn't mention that at all i've look up on internet and said what you have stated to me
I did'nt know it would effect his cushings all the vet said was that he would need a speical ear drop and anti biotic's as a normal erar drops and cleaner wouldn'y touch it.
i've always cleaned pips ears with a dog ear cleaner i get from the vets i use to do twice a week then we saw a vet never seen before and she suggested doing pips ears everyday twice aday .i only did that a couple of times as nothing was coming out and pip was going crazy with his ears
so i just went back to twice a week
thank you do you think i should stop the ear drops and tablets only pip is a lot more settled and relaxed with his ears
juile

[Wylie's Mom]

Hi Julie,

I just found this article, and of course it's only one vet's findings/belief, but this is what he wrote (link to article is below):

"In dogs, Pseudomonas otitis is the principal disease process caused by this organism. Almost all cases of resistance Pseudomonas are associated with chronic and recurrent otitis induced by a primary/underlying disease ( atopy, food allergy, hypothyroidism, Cushing’s, and conformational
abnormalities of the ear). It is likely that the chronic alterations in the otic microenvironment associated with persistent inflammation, sets up a state of hyperhidrosis which is preferred by Pseudomonas. The unique pathogenicity of Pseudomonas allows it to take advantage of the diseased tissue and develop resistance to antibiotics.

The single most important component for the successful treatment of chronic/recurrent otitis is control of the underlying disease process that has caused the alteration in otic microenvironment. Both allergies (atopy and food allergy) and endocrine diseases (hypothyroidism and Cushing’s disease) are common causes of otitis . The infection will not be successfully managed and the recurrent otitis will not stop until the redisposing/underlying disease is identified and controlled. Bacterial culture’s and antibiotic sensitivity profiles should be used to determine which organisms are present and for the selection of appropriate antibiotic therapy. During the course of treatment, cultures and antibiotic sensitivity panels should be repeated to monitor changes in the bacterial population and antibiotic resistance."

http://www.itchnot.com/images/What_are_the_infections_and_Why.pdf

-Susy

[SasAndYunah]

Oh no Julie, do not stop the drops and the pills. His ears must be very painfull and itchy...and the meds will help relieve those symptoms. But just wanted to make sure that if Pip vomits...or becomes hyperactive for example, that you don't panic and think it is his Cushing's...it could very well be the side effects of the pills :) And with the Dexamethasone in the eardrops...I would wait with the ACTH test..untill Pip is off the eardrops to make absolutely sure that the Dexamethasone in the eardrups is not interfering with the results of the ACTH test :)

But a bacterial culture and an antibiogram might be a good idea. The earinfection could be "just" the pseudomonas but there also could be a fungus or yeast infection as well, for example. It's good to know for certain wich bacterias and/or other organisms are involded, since this will help to determine the very best treatment. (pseudomonas is resistant to most antibiotics...so randomly prescribing anti biotics is useless) They can test to which anti biotic the specific strain of pseudomonas is best responding to. I know, that here in The Netherlands, there are no (commercial) eardrops or ointments that contain the right antibiotic to treat pseudomonas. What they will do is make a tailormade cream or bottle of drops by adding the right antibiotics to the (neutral) cream or drops. This is, as far as I know, the best (and actually only) way to treat pseudomonasinfections in ears. But you need a bacterial culture and antibiogram...

But keep giving Pip his current meds for now...they will at least help to relieve (some of) his painfull and itchy symptoms for now.

Saskia and Yunah :)

[juile]

I need advice regarding Pips ear drops


Everytime i put Pip's ear drops in he cries and whimpers:(:(:(:( mainly on the left side his ears are very painful and itching red and sore Do you think i should STOP giving him the ear drops and just give him the anti biotics tablets as right now he's not liking his ears touched at all :(:(:(

i would be very greatful for any advice
juile:

[Spiceysmum]

Hi Julie,

Sorry to hear Pip is having trouble with his ears now. I think you should carry on with the drops, hopefully they will start working soon. Spicey had the Aurizon drops last year and they worked well. When their ears are sore they do whimper when you put the drops in and Spicey always hates it when the vet looks deep in her ears. Also like Saskia suggested I would wait a bit longer before having the ACTH test. Spicey was due to have a test when she was on the drops and we had to delay it for a week as the lab said it could have an influence on the test.

Linda and Spicey

[juile]

Hi

Just an update on Pip

We had to call the out of hours vet today as pip is in a total mess with this PSEUDOMANS INFECTION IN BOTH EARS.The read what the other vet put on friday when he was seen .my mum spoke to the vet as pip is vomiting and crying everytime we put the ear drops in. she said that Pip has a very very nasty ear infection unfortunalty we have to carry on with ear drops (and she understands how pianful and distress this is making pip )the reason it he does like the his ears being touched and and the ear drops in is because they are so red and imflammed all the way down to his his ear canal to the middle ear so its going to be very painful for pip. we have to carry on weith the drops and anti biotics as its importantto get this uneder control.
the vet said pip may just sleep and want to be left alone as this infection is nasty and making him feel very poorly(she is right there he is just sleeping) i must wake him up for anti biotics and ear drops,
it bank holiday here she will see him on tuesday and may be change his anti biotics mum said he was there on friday as they want to see him in 7 days
she said would see him before and our normal vet could still see him on friday.
Although Pip has cushings and other health problems i've never ever seen him so DISTRESS like this it's very heartbreaking to see my baby like this .
Anyway i forgot to tell you pip now wieghs 35. kilos he gone from 36.9 to 35.kilos although i'm expecting him to put weight on as he's not doing anything other than sleep
I've put some poicture on of Pip with honey , he was 4 years old there and onlt a kilo overwieght . so you may think he is slim .i will be putting some new photo of my chumky boy on shortly
julie

[Roxee'sDad]

Hi Julie,
Sorry that Pip is feeling poorly. I hope the meds do their work fast and Pip starts to feel better soon. It is so hard to watch your baby suffer and know there is nothing you can do except meds and waiting.
We will be keeping good thoughts for Pip's quick recovery.
John (Roxee's Dad)

[ladysmom06]

Hi Julie,

Sorry to hear that Pip is in a lot of pain from the ear infection. Hoping the medicine starts working soon and he can get some relief. Hugs to the two of you.

[forscooter]

Hi Julie,

I am so sorry Pip is suffering so with that ear infection! Scooter always had them and I know how painful they can be. He would cry even if you just touched his ear lightly sometimes. It was horrible.

The good news is that they did get better over time with medication. Unfortunately that's the only way the ears will get better...I wish there was another way...but please know that we are sending our very best and hope Pip gets some relief SOON!

Sending Pip lots of healing wishes!!!
Beth, Bailey and always Scooter

[LuvMyMunchie]

Julie,

I'm sorry to hear that Pip is so miserable with his ear infection and understand how upsetting that is for you. Just wanted you to know that I'm thinking positive thoughts for you both.

Louise

[juile]

Pip is still in some discomfort with his ears, still being sick today he's not eaten anything i've put in front of him.He just sleeping i manged to put the ear drops in again he was crying whimpering and he did a little scream still doesn't like his ears being touched . still carry on with the treat for pseudomonas may have to get him back tomorrow tried giving him his other medication didn;t want to know. Haven't be able to get him to take his VETORYL TODAY .but its only 1 day without medication .will hopefully take tomorrow even if i have to give him some chicken that if i can get him to eat.
julie

[Lulusmom]

Hi Julie,

I'm sorry that Pip is having another rough day. :( A dog that doesn't eat is usually a sick dog and you should never give Vetoryl to a sick dog. So you may want to wait until Pip's appetite is back before resuming dosing. We'll have fingers and paws crossed here in the hopes that Pip will feel much better soon.

Glynda

[juile]

Thanks Glynda,


I can't get him to eat still and take his normal mediction ,Spoke with vet practice they just say this type of ear infection is very nasty.I said about Pip's ACTH STIM on friday this has be cancelled as the vet said he needs 2 week's clear of the ear drops All he'as doing in sleeping still drinking and vomiting .its really knocked out of him.

Julie

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Julie,

I have been out of town and am sad to read that Pip is having such a hard time with his ears.

He needs some proteins to help him heal. Since he is drinking, maybe you could try some chicken broth or beef broth, or even make a stock using some veggies he likes along with some meat. This way he will get some nutrients he needs yet doesn't have to chew, which with painful ears may be too much for him right now. Try to get him to take some liquid nourishment until he can chew without pain. If he won't take that, then get some NutriCal. It will provide all the nutrients he needs.

Hope things start looking up for you and Pip again soon and that he is chasing cats again in no time!

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[Roxee'sDad]

Hi Julie,
Just checking in and hoping Pip is recovering. Hope he is feeling better by now.
John (Roxee's Dad)

[juile]

Just to keep you update on the latest with Pip


He went back to the vets on friday his ears a just a little pink although he's still not happy with his ears being touched, my vet said she could give him more ear drops but is steriod base and will effect his cushings. but ultimatly he will need his cushings test . she also said we could give him a gently ear cleaner to use every day to try and soothe them.when the vet looked in them on friday there was stiil no wax mite's.what the vet said try is 1 drop of olive oil 1 daily in both ears to see if that to see if that help soothes the irration and to give his ears a little coating.
he still not happy with his eares being touched he shaking his head and tilting which my vet saw on friday as i've already said there is nothing in them.the reason he was being sick was due to the anti biotics
My vet also said Pip has some sort of allergies which we will be looking into .(maybe ? ) not sure at the moment giving him time to get over the ear infection. i said to my vet he's had infection's before but this one has really taken it out of him
he still sleeping quite alot he started eating again on friday also taking his regular medication .

This morning he went for a walk and we had a nice stroll we went where he want to go (the only thing is he was a bit mad as he fancied to in the canal and i wouldn't let him so i spoiled his fun) but we where out for about 1hr 15mins.but i let him go where he wanted to go.

he is booked in for his ACTH stim on the 28th may as vet said about 3 weeks after ear drops
well that my news
julie pip

[LuvMyMunchie]

Hi Julie,

Thanks for the update. Glad that Pip's ears are a little better and that he still feels like taking a stroll. This infection has certainly taken its toll on him, poor boy. Hope he fully recovers soon!!

Take care,
Louise

[Roxee'sDad]

Hi Julie,
Very happy that you are seeing improvement in Pip. I hope he feel much better real soon.
John (Roxee's Dad)

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Julie,

I'm glad there has been some improvement with Pip's ears and that he felt like taking a walk with you. You tell him that Auntie Leslie said he can't play in the water until his ears are well. BUT, he can chase all the cats he wants. ;)

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[juile]

Thank you for all your replies

This morning Pip's ears were very red sore and hot does like them being touched again his shaking his head and also head tilting very badly you cold teel he was in some discomfort and they were making him irratable,
spoke to the vet nurse left a message for my vet who contact me back and has prescribed him the aurizon again for 1 week (HIS ATCH STIM HAS BEEN PUT BACK FOR THE 1 WEEK IN JUNE SOME HE HAS PLENTY OF TIME OF THE EAR DROPS)
Juile Pip

[Squirt's Mom]

Poor baby. :( Am keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[Roxee'sDad]

Hi Julie,
Also keeping good thoughts for Pip. Poor guy has been thru enough and needs to catch some good luck.
John (Roxee's Dad)

[juile]

stil having lots of trouble with his ears although hes sleeping quite alot at the moment he's only awake for about 2 hrs aday at present he seems really drain and tired but i cant get his cushings check until 5 th june due to the ear drops
julie and pip

[AlisonandMia]

Hi Julie,

Re the ear drops and the ACTH stim test - I think you have been using Aurizon ear drops on Pip. I see that the steroid in Aurizon ear drops is dexamethasone and this is good because it means that you can have an ACTH stim test done even while he is having them put in his ears every day without it affecting the test at all.

This is because dexamethasone (unlike any other steroids) does not "read" as cortisol on testing. This is why it can be used in the Low Dose Dexamethasone Suppression test that is used in Cushing's diagnosis.

If the dexamethasone in the ear drops is the only steroid that Pip has received in the course of this ear infection then you should be able to get the ACTH stim done any time you want without having to worry about it affecting the results in any way.

Alison

[juile]

Pip is really not well at all he has all the cushings very hungry all the time drinking excessivly no energy.
His ears are still causing him some discomfort and irration
also his he not walking very well and has only had a walk about 3 doors up and turned striaght round
but its been very cold and damp here so that may be why hes joints are playing him up .
I went to vets today to collect his wormere and they are 100% sure he cannot have his acth stim while on aurizon ear drops has to be 2 weeks minuim so i cannot have him tested to see if he levels are up and his medication needs adjusting


julie

[Squirt's Mom]

Hey Julie,

Poor Pip. :( Seems like every time he gets to feeling good, something happens and brings him down again. Just not fair...to either of you!

I am wondering if perhaps the Trilo has caused some of Pips intermediate/sex hormones to elevate, causing him to keep having the cush behaviors. Was he ever tested for Atypical Cushing's with a full adrenal panel from UTK? I can't remember. :o Having the arthritis worsen when the cortisol is lowered is not that surprising as the cortisol "treats" the inflammation. But the difficulty he has had in getting his cush signs/behaviors under control just makes me wonder if some of his other hormones may not be out of whack, too. Especially since we know the Trilo will cause some of those to elevate. I just we knew what was causing his problem and how to address it. :( Hopefully the ACTH will give some answers.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[juile]

Hi lesile

I don't think he was ever tested for Atypical all i know is that they tested his thyroid it was a full panel (a posh test but don't know what its called)before he was diagonesd with cushing and the vet said he definatly didn't have a thyriod problem only one of the levels where low which can happen with a cushings dog the vet did put him on solxine for low level but the medication made him very ill.

when ever pip has his acth stim and we get the results they are either to HIGH or when he was last tested his levels where to LOW so we have to adjust his medication all the time he is either on 2 vetoryl 30mg morning and evening dose or when she reduces him to 1 vetoryl daily he a mess or if its really really low no medication for a week then retest him then his levels are very very high and the vet does what the lab suggests i don't know i keep asking my vet could anything else be going in she said he has behavioural problems but pips not a naughty dog and doesn't show any behavourial problems the only thing he has is separte anxiety but they say that because our bond is very strong if i not around he panics and vomit and shakes even my mum cannot console him hes never left on his own.once i come home hes fine every time i get up to move you can put money on it pip is right necxt to me even when hes asleep at night and i get up because i can't sleep or come down for a drink of water pip will get up and follow then get back on my bed and come for a hug if try and move my hand as it gone dead even though he's asleep he will put his paw up to stop me from moving he more secure when when he's with His mum (but thats because of him being very badly treated beaten starved when i got him he was very thin the bones were showing on his head and they are the last things to go he was stabbed broken jaw cut marks on the inside of his hind legs he had never been on a lead ifeed him when i got him home the as he was covered in fleas i bathed him he fell asleep as that was his first bath in his short life of 18 months and since then we've only had 1 night apart from each other and thats when he had major surgery 2weeks after honey died as there was someone going poisoning dogs and they got pip but the stuff they threow over also had glass metal and wood in so he need major surgery on his intestines and bowel as there was no way he was going to pass that it was 2 weeks after honey died the vet said pip would be better at home with his mum as he was meant ti been for a week but he had an overnight stay.
and sinxce i got him at 18mths old he was unsure what was going to happen to for about 2months nowe he's very spoiled but hes never show any behavouiral problems only seprate anxiety.
sorry i.ve done it again if you got this far down and not fallen asleep SORRY FOR GOING ON AND BORING YOU

Julie Pip

[Squirt's Mom]

Sweetie, you never bore me! :) It always makes me smile and gives me the warm fuzzies when you tell about how you got Pip and how close you two are now. He is truly blessed to have found you!

I believe I would think about having the UTK panel done on Pip. If his other hormones are elevated, that could well be a big part of his problem getting regulated. Unfortunately, I believe you will have to take him off the Trilo awhile to get the testing done, but maybe I'm wrong. The treatments for Atyical, melatonin and lignans, aren't prescription in the US and we can get them at just about any pharmacy, health food store, even WalMart. And they are easier on the pups as well as us moms and dads. Something to consider anyway. Hopefully some of those with more experience will chime in on this, too.

Hang in there!
Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[Wylie's Mom]

YOU ARE NOT BORING, JULIE!

It's hearbreaking knowing how Pip was treated in the past, but it makes it that much better to know he is now in such a caring home and being spoiled (like he deserves:p).

I'm sorry he's not feeling well:(.

-Susy

[labblab]

Oh Julie, I am so sorry to hear that Pip is still having such problems. I'm sure that it is your loving care that has kept him going through all of these rough spots. And I'm counting on it doing the same, now.

Regarding Leslie's suggestion about testing Pip for elevated hormone levels other than cortisol -- I do think this is something we have touched upon in the past. But since you live in the U.K., the situation is more complicated for you than for us in the U.S. Pip's blood sample would have to be sent here to the U.S. for analysis. That can probably be done without too much trouble. But the real trouble is that you may not have any alternative treatment for Pip's high cortisol OTHER than trilostane. Here in the U.S., dogs can be shifted to a different drug, Lysodren, if it seems as though trilostane is causing some problems. But Lysodren is generally not an option in England. I think it is very difficult to obtain. So as long as Pip needs to have his cortisol level reduced, I don't know that he has any choice other than to remain on the trilostane, regardless. It is such a shame that it seems as though he has a number of issues going on, and that the treatment that helps one may not be so good for another. :(

I know you have been up and done with the ACTH results, though. And if it starts turning out that his ACTH results repeatedly are too low -- even though he is still having Cushing's symptoms -- then you may well want to talk with your vets some more about having him tested for elevations of other adrenal hormones (this is the test that Leslie is talking about).

Marianne

[Wylie's Mom]

There is information on the UTK site for shipping from outside the US:

http://www.vet.utk.edu/diagnostic/endocrinology/shipping.php

[Squirt's Mom]

and some info on Lysodren in the UK:

Lysodren in the UK/England

http://www.penstone-vets.co.uk/cushings.htm
Treatment of the pituitary-dependant Cushing's Disease requires administration of tablets. A chemotherapy-type drug is used called Lysodren (Mitotane-OPPD). This is a human drug that has to be imported into the U.K. from the U.S.A. under special license.

UK Office
Masters
380 Centennial Avenue
Centennial Park
Elstree - Hertfordshire
UK - WD6 3TJ
Telephone: + 44 (0) 208 327 0900
Facsimile: + 44 (0) 208 327 0901
Email: info@masters-uk.com

[LuvMyMunchie]

Julie,

You're not boring! I remember reading that Pip was abused prior to coming to you but I didn't realize how badly. :mad: What a horrid life he had in the past, poor boy.

He is one very, very lucky boy to have you as his Mum!! Spoiled??...I believe he's very much loved!!!

Louise

[juile]

Hi Everyonr

Thank you for all your replies,
I know about mititane i asked my vet practice about itbut they are not licensed for that drug but there is a dog down the from my house who also has cushing and her dog is on mitotane (she is at a different practice than mine.i have another dog that live not so far from me and the dogs has cushings she is also on vetoryl her dog doesn't seem to lose any weight and is and still has syptoms of his cushing but as i say hes on vetoryl she is at the same vets practice as us and they prefer vetoryl .

Anyway going on to we called our vet practice yesterday afternoon at 1.30pm, for advice as he really is not well at all .the vet nurse said our normal vet was at lunch but she never got in contact at all (which is very unlike her as she always contacts you back my vet is always very hectic as she a very popluar vet with every one but she only the monday and friday and it doesn't matter if she full booked up with appointments she will always fit Pip in her schedule and if sshe cannot the other vet will go and have a quick chat but she does copme throw and see while we are with the other vet but thats very rare) anyway going back to Pip hes right side is very painful and his stomach is sore he skin is very he's ears still very red and irrating him doesn't like them being touched he's getting like open sores on his stomach he's got know enregy and very lethergic he's not doing anything my mum called and the nurse said she would call us back but a 8pm our vet never and my mum said this is not like onr vet as she hasn't called us mum said there must of been something going that she could'nt get back to us.
So in the end my mum called the out of hours number the vet called us back mum explian what was going on with pip as i've already said she said that even when pip is not well he always has something for a little play but hee's not doing anything he got nothing no energy (by this time i was very unhappy mum said we called and the vet hasnt got back to us she said its not like our vet not to call and she apolized on her behalf of the practice but she told my our vet will always contact is back because its Pip and said our surname even if our normal vet got the message at 10pm she wopuld call because its Pip the vet mum spoke to is going to find out what going on and why our vet never got back tous (but said yes its Pip and she would get back to us because its Pip.
anyway we've done what the vet has told us to do and we just have to watch him over the weekend.
Julie Pip

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Julie,

I am so sorry Pip is having so many problems. :( When did the sores start? Has he been able to see his usual vet yet? I am worried about this latest development in Pip's situation. :(

It is a shame you can't convince his vet to use the mitotane. It seems that the vetryol is just not doing him justice. The infections, sores, and continuing lack of control of the cush signs tells me his disease is not being addressed by the Trilo. Pip has been through so much in his life, it is not fair that he now has to suffer from this, too.

Please keep in touch and let us know how he is doing.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[juile]

I always see my normal vet and if pip is ill in the week the other vets treat him and put us on till our normal vet is back on a friday i left message and they said she would call but as i said already she never so we called the out of hours practice who apolgised and she said if we call she our normal vet would contact us back because its pip
anyway the sores started to appear on wedensday the vet my mium spoke to said to bath the which i'm doing with hibiscrub which if i took pip to the vets thats excalty what they would use she also said that Pips belly maybe just upset and sometimes cushing dogs do get an upset stomach and can be painful.

i've given him piriton for the redness of his skin and also to help with the irration of his ears .
this morning i gave pip a bath as he was uncomfortable with his skin i use COATEX which i get from the vets this has help he just pinkish on his stomach now and a little more settled i still bathe these sores

I worried something else is going on with Pip other than his cushings and have said this to my normal vets as she knows every part of pip she checked his liver kidneys pancreas she also checked his thyroid and 1 reading con=mes back low which happens with a cushings dog as i have a friend with cushings and her dog's reading for thyroid come back low but its not actual the thyriod causing the problem also my vet has tested him for diabetes that was feb march time and she until then he didn't have that.
My vets seems to think its behavourial problems with Pip but all he suffersw with is sepration anxiety but when i m home hes fine he never left home alone there is always someone there with him and if there is i take to a friends and he will stay there till i go and collect him
I KNOW MY DOG AND SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH HIM OTHER THAN IS CUSHINGS .
Julie Pip

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Sweetie,

We always say we know our babies better than anyone and if you think something other than the Cushing's is going on, then follow your gut. That is certainly a real possibility. His case has been frustrating and usual from the start. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find there was some other issue at play here. Do you have access to specialists there? It might the wisest move to have Pip seen by an internal specialist with fresh eyes. It's easy for the vets that see them all the time (and us sometimes :o ) to get tunnel vision and contribute everything to the Cushing's, so fresh eyes may be just the ticket for Pip.

I'm glad he is somewhat more settled after his bath and hope he has a better day today.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[Squirt's Mom]

Hey Julie,

How is Pip doing? I sure hope you have seen some improvements! Keeping you and Pip in my thoughts and prayers for good days to come.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls

[juile]

Hi Lesile,

Pip is doing fine his ears are finally getting there he pants alot .
But he's doing loads better this afternoon i've been doing some gardening ans Pip's been doing he's bit i layed the plants where i wanted them and he was digging holes where he wants the plants and if i put them in different place he would pull the up.
Now regarding walking thats a bit hit and miss at the moment if he goes for a walk in the morning he's very reluctant to go for his evening walk he really has slowed down quite alot over the last month or so .but i think thats alot to do with his hip dyspalisa (needs a hip replacement) and his arthritis in the rest of his joints.
He still got a good appetite I HAVE A DOG THAT WAGGING HIS TALE ALL THE TIME AGAIN AND HAS THE SPARKLE BACK IN HIS EYES AND HE FOLLOWS BE ABOUT LIKE IF USE TO DO. HE PLAYS WHEN HE WANTS TO WHEN HE HAD ENOUGH HE STOPS.
although he sleeps alot now ,My vet said Pip would always be old before his time.He's 10 in december he's a large dog and his weight is against him.
I think Now i'm starting to see the ageng process with Pip now
julie

[LuvMyMunchie]

Julie,

So glad to hear that Pip's ears are finally on the mend and that he is feeling better again.

The aging process does affect all of us, but as long as Pip is still wagging his tail, plays, has the sparkle in his eyes and has a Mum that loves him....that's what counts IMO!!

Give your boy some extra pets from me.

Louise

[Roxee'sDad]

Hi Julie,
So very, very happy that Pip is on the mend. I hope he continues to improve. And let the old man sleep when he wants to. He earned it:)

John (Roxee's Dad)

[Truffa's Mom]

Yippeee, what a good news !!!!! :):):):):)

I HAVE A DOG THAT WAGGING HIS TALE ALL THE TIME AGAIN AND HAS THE SPARKLE BACK IN HIS EYES AND HE FOLLOWS BE ABOUT LIKE IF USE TO DO. HE PLAYS WHEN HE WANTS TO WHEN HE HAD ENOUGH HE STOPS
I agree 200% with you, that's life at his purest. I am in need of a good gardener, I will hire you on the spot mister Pip!!!!

Big hugs to you both

Marcela & The Choco Lbs

[labblab]

Oh, I'm so relieved to hear this update, too!!!!!!!! I've felt so worried about Pip, but so helpless as to knowing what has been making him feel so poorly. So it's wonderful to hear that he's doing better...:) :D :) :D :) :D

Marianne

[Wylie's Mom]

I'm so happy to hear that Pip's ears are getting better:D:D:D:D!!!!

-Susy

[juile]

Thank you for your replies

i 100% sure it's the start of the aging process now as he usual goes upstairs and sleeps on his bed but he's becoming very reluctant to go upstairs now. Although he won't be 10 till the end of the year some of my friends say it cant be the start of the ageing process most large dogs are in the prime at 9 but pips very different to most dogs even my vet said Pip is going to be old before his time,

now that Pip is reluctant to go upstairs i've been looking to get him a cage so that he has his own space at night my sister wont disturb him when she gets up at 3am for work but i;m not sure if he will like being in a cage as when his at the vets he bangs his head on the cage and looks very sad and unhappy sometimes my vet takes Pip out of the cage while waitng for his bloods and puts him in the prep room and she said pip is far happier being around people and not being stook in cage so this may not be a good idea i will have to have a very good THINK and chat with the vet to see if he will accept or not as io dont want to upset and make him stressed in a cage i thought of making him very unhappy makes me cry which i'm doing alot now.
He has now stopped his evening walking altogether he goes for 1 long walk in the morning now as he seems at his best in at 8am
julie