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    BY COPPERBADGER

    Hi all,

    I just adopted my first dog, Carlie. She's six and a half and a beagle mix, and really sweet. She was diagnosed as a very young puppy when she first entered the shelter (and was adopted in the interim before her previous owner could no longer care for her and surrendered her back).

    Carlie wasn't particularly well-exercised or trained in the shelter, so I have been starting with both. The shelter said to keep her on the regimen she'd been on, do her new routine with me, and then bring her in in a few weeks for a glucose curve, and after that adjust the insulin to her new routine.

    But I'm starting to feel really overwhelmed and misled by the shelter. They said she'd been totally regulated, but my vet didn't find any evidence of that in her medical records, and she was definitely unregulated last August--when she's been known to be diabetic since birth. The shelter said there was up to a 2-hour leeway in the insulin/feeding times, which my research now seems to indicate is wrong. They said she had never had any medical problems other than a broken leg and a cataract but her records mention kidney disease.

    I live alone except for the cat and now Carlie, and I work full-time away from home. I have a good job and could afford curves a few times a year plus her insulin, which is all the shelter said I'd need, but I can't afford tons of vet bills month after month, let alone treatment for any diseases her possibility long-term unregulated diabetes might have wreaked.

    I'm trying to work this out, because I didn't make the decision to adopt a dog or to adopt Carlie lightly. But I have no idea what to do. My vet got impatient with my questions and I don't trust the shelter to give me accurate information instead of whatever they think will get me to keep Carlie. But if she stays with me she has to get obedience training, plus a lot of training to get her to coexist peacefully with my cat. I'm working with a reputable school that uses positive reinforcement, and Carlie sure is food-motivated... but I don't want to make her hyperglycemic. But then, I exercise her more--I told the shelter I wanted a 5K running partner and they said she could work up to that, but now I'm not so sure. Is more walks enough to make up for all that extra kibble? That's what the vet recommended I use to treat her, and I'm afraid to take her training kibble out of her meal ration in case she goes hypoglycemic after her shot.

    The good thing: she takes her injection without turning a hair.

    So that's where I am. If anyone has any help or advice they'd be willing to share, I can't even describe how much I would appreciate it.

    Hello all,

    I've been reading this forum for a couple months now, and just came across this post - I'm about 99% sure that this is the Carlie that I adopted (from Shelter from the Storm) about a month ago. Copperbadger, I know it was hard for you, but I have to say that I'm glad you returned her; despite her health problems, she is just the perfect dog for me. The shelter also told us that she was regulated, but after having a curve done it seems that that isn't the case. Now that we're all settled in with shots, I'm following the advice of the many helpful/wonderful people on this forum by looking into home glucose testing. My vet suggested that urine test strips would be sufficient - has anyone tried these?

  • #2
    Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

    wow, how nice to find out that Carlie found a wonderful home!

    I've never used the urine strips for testing blood sugar, only ketones. It took me much longer than it has taken other people to home test Jenny's blood with a human meter but I think she could very well have died from low blood sugar if we hadn't figured it out. Jenny has other medical issues.

    If you are game to try home testing, I encourage you to do it. It will give you better info than the urine strips and you can do your own curves.

    Do you have the curve info you can post?

    Carlie is a doll, I'm just so happy to see your post. What an angel you are to adopt an older diabetic dog. Judi
    Jenny: 6/6/2000 - 11/10/2014 She lived with diabetes and cushings for 3 1/2 years. She was one of a kind and we miss her.

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    • #3
      Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

      Oh, I am soooo glad too. It all worked out.

      I am just going to bed but will check in tomorrow to welcome you properly.

      Yay, Yay, Yay!
      Tara in honor of Ruby.
      She was a courageous Boston Terrier who marched right on through diabetes, megaesophagus, and EPI until 14.
      Lucky for both of us we found each other. I'd do it all again girly.

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      • #4
        Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

        hi and what a wonderful thing you have done for this beautiful spirit

        some do urine test because there dogs are just to difficult min pin our one of the difficult ones to test but actually that is on the rare side if you want to really manage the disease testing blood sugar is the way to go you know what blood sugar is in real time testing urine is testing sugar from a past time .

        so if you feel your pup might be accepting and there are some things you can do we test the lip by doing dry runs maybe rolling the lip over exposing the canine tooth rubbing your finger across the inner lip and see how she reacts and do that for awhile then maybe get a empty pen cartridge or something like that to represent a lance device and place that on the inner lip above the canine and check for reaction compliment on such a good dog and you can give small rewards if this is something she is comfortable with i am sure you can blood test sugar at home on the lip and if not there are other locations

        you do not need permission from anyone to do this i started testing blood sugar on jesses first week of diagnosis and i am so glad i did and did not ask permission but of coarse keep the vet in the loop but in the end its your decision
        Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
        Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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        • #5
          Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

          Thank you! She's absolutely wonderful, the sweetest girl. I don't know the details of her curve, but I know that before her injection it was in the low 200s, which the vet said is normal. It increased after that, reaching about 600. Her vet thinks it may be because she's on antibiotics for an ear infection. I didn't see them give her the shot, so I'm hoping that it was given correctly. In any case, the vet said to carry on as normal and she'll be getting another one in a couple weeks. I'm a worrywart, and she didn't mind me playing around with her mouth at all (though it's her bedtime - she may feel differently about this in the morning) so I think I'll read up on home testing and ask the vet for a tutorial next time I go! I sometimes have a hard time getting her to eat her normal food (though she tries to eat about everything else - apparently goose poo is delicious). It seems like a lot of people on this forum cook meats/veggies for meals, which I'd be more than happy to do provided it lasts a few days in the fridge. Does anyone know of a good resource for learning how to do this? I don't want her to get sick from such a sudden change. Sorry for the long post, thanks for all the help!

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          • #6
            Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

            Wow!!! What a wonderful story and connection! Congrats to you and to Carlie. And I hope CopperBadger has a chance to read that Carlie found a good home.

            Natalie

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            • #7
              Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

              Welcome and what a wonderful story.

              I am new to this so my advice is limited. I do use urine strips sometimes. Yuli is very high in hiss numbers so I use them to check for ketones. They test for sugar as well but he is always high at the moment.

              I found this forum the day he was diagnosed. My vet said he would not be doing a curve but a fructose test a few weeks down the line. I did some research and ordered an alpha trak. I chose the alpha trak because that is what my vet uses but the strips are expensive . There is lots of advice about meters on the board.

              You will get loads of advice and support here. I did change his food but did it gradually.
              Ann and Yuli - Yuli is 11 yrs and was dx Aug 2012. He lives with 1 other Tibetan Terrier aged 14. Yuli is 39 lb and is on 25 iu Caninsulin x 2. Got his sight back June 19 2014.

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              • #8
                Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

                Hi and Congrats on adopting your soul mate

                As you've noticed, the people here are amazing and a wealth of knowledge. Good luck on your journey through sugar-land
                Jane and Franklin, 8 years, maltese, currently 6.4kg, Australia. Cushing's with elevated hormones dx'd 2009/2010, proteinuria, epilepsy, diabetes dx'd July 2012. Phenobarb 30mg bid, 3mg melatonin bid, lignans sid, caninsulin 4.8u bid (a work in progress). Diet- home cooked. Blind from cataracts January 2013, sighted from surgery February 2013.

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                • #9
                  Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

                  I just love that this came full circle, and you found us...
                  What a gentle and kind spirit you are to adopt Carlie.
                  Barb & Abby 12/24/1999-12/31/2013 ~ dx 5/10/2011 ~ Forever in my heart ~

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                  • #10
                    Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

                    Oh, how wonderful! Congrats to you and Carlie!

                    You certainly don't have to homecook food. There are some that rotate foods for their picky eaters as well - while maintaining the same number of calories and general nutritional content. Sandy's Tiggy would be a good thread to read on this.

                    Welcome to you!
                    Patty
                    Patty and Ali 13.5yrs 47lbs diagnosed May '08 Ali earned her wings October 27, 2012, 4 months after diagnosis of a meningioma ~ Time is precious ~

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                    • #11
                      Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

                      Thanks for the advice! Tiggy's thread was incredibly helpful! I'll definitely try boiling her food. I just talked to my vet (who loves that I'm going to try testing at home) and I'll be picking up an AlphaTrak kit from her tomorrow! I watched some videos, and you all make it look easy Can't wait to give it a try!

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                      • #12
                        Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

                        Welcome!

                        I love how Carlie came back!!! Thats a wonderful story!!!

                        If you need any help with the food thing, just holler.....I've been through it all

                        Sandy

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                        • #13
                          Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

                          Originally posted by alyssak View Post
                          I just talked to my vet (who loves that I'm going to try testing at home) and I'll be picking up an AlphaTrak kit from her tomorrow! I watched some videos, and you all make it look easy Can't wait to give it a try!
                          You might want to shop around. ENTIRELYPETS has it listed for $116.99
                          http://www.entirelypets.com/alphamonitor.html

                          and AMERICANDIABETESWHOLESALE lists it for $152
                          http://search.americandiabeteswholes...ords=alphatrak

                          But I BELIEVE AMERICANDIABETESWHOLESALE offered an AlphaTrak2 starter kit (meter, strips, lancets, lancet tool and carry pouch) for under $90. Believe one of the members got this unadvertised starter kit last week for under $90 just by phoning and asking. Worth the phone call!!

                          I always search the internet before buying AlphaTrak2 test strips, prices do vary.
                          Annie was an 18 pound Lhasa Apso that crossed the rainbow bridge on 10-5-17. She was nearly 17 years old and diabetic for 9½ years.

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                          • #14
                            Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

                            Craig - I lucked out! The vet's giving me the starter kit for 90. I'll definitely use those resources for buying new test strips, though!

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                            • #15
                              Re: struggling with new dog's diabetes

                              Yes that's her!! I love how her tail is blurry from wagging in your photo. I'm so happy that she found a home with you alyssak. (And thanks Natalie for emailing me to point out this post because I still felt guilty and probably never would have come back and seen this otherwise.)

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