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Isabelle 04-07-2017 04:47 PM

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After 10 months of slowly increasing units of insulin, too many bladder infections - Isabelle finally had a great curve with levels ranging from a low of 80 to a high of 180 with a good shape. I know not to become complacent, but it is so good to see these numbers and to see her with so much energy.

jesse girl 04-07-2017 05:22 PM

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thats very good news

yes complacency can be one of our biggest problems

hope things continue on an uneventful course

MomofGus 04-07-2017 05:42 PM

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Such good news! Now, keep up the good work. I'm curious, did you just increase the insulin that you were using or did you switch insulins like you were thinking.

farrwf 04-08-2017 07:18 AM

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Love to hear good reports like this. Betting Isabelle is feeling much better too.

Congrats on the great numbers!

Isabelle 04-13-2017 01:46 PM

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We just kept slowly increasing her insulin dose - the shape of her curves were always good, but the numbers were always high. They slowly decreased and it took 10 months to achieve the great numbers!

Isabelle 08-12-2017 09:12 AM

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I just wanted to post an update on Isabelle - she is great! She was initially diagnosed in June, 2016 and a year ago this weekend, I was trying to stay calm as she would not eat and was extremely lethargic. I visited this site daily and read every post trying to learn what could be wrong with her. We never did find out what was wrong but between good and bad days and slowly increasing her insulin, she turned the corner in March, 2017 when we finally found the correct dose. She has been on 17 units since then and her energy level is great. She has a film developing in one eye, but it seems to have stabilized. I know not to become complacent and am grateful for every wonderful day we have with her. I have learned to be patient (not one of my strengths) and taking care of Izzy is just part of our regular routine now.

Daisydog10 08-12-2017 10:29 AM

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That is wonderful news!!!

jesse girl 08-12-2017 10:38 AM

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they teach us so much . the hole experience has helped me to grow i think jesse got diabetes on purpose so i could be a better person ha

congrats on the one year milestone . it really took that long with jesse to finally feel we had a routine established day in and day out

Raysaint 08-12-2017 06:21 PM

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It's comforting to know that others have taken many months to get to a consistent routine. And I don't mean I hope dogs take a long time to regulate.

I'm 5 months in and so frustrated that I can't get consistent good numbers. I'm feeling I should have had this done before this. It's one step forward, 2 back, too often. But I feel I'm close.
Glad we're all in this together, for the good of the cause.

k9diabetes 08-13-2017 01:10 PM

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How wonderful to hear that you and Izzie are doing so well! :)


Isabelle 11-13-2017 06:53 PM

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AAGH - yet another urinary tract infection! It seems like Izzy has a UTI every three months. This time is has been only 2 months since she finished her last course of antibiotics. Tomorrow I pick up another antibiotic and another 3 weeks of treatment. We have seen a specialist and she suggested we wipe Izzy when she comes in from urinating and we started her on cranberry supplements - well, that did not work! Any suggestions are welcome.

On the positive side, I think we caught this UTI before it got too bad - her energy levels are still high and her sugar is still in the not too high range.

Raysaint 11-14-2017 06:42 AM

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What did her last urinalysis show? Any crystals? Is ph normal?

Isabelle 11-14-2017 09:10 AM

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No crystals; not sure about the Ph . I will ask the vet

Isabelle 03-17-2018 06:25 AM

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An update on Isabelle- she turned 10 two days ago. She was diagnosed almost 2 years ago, took 10 months to regulate, has had numerous UTI's, has a partial cataract in one eye and had a piece of a cow trachea chew caught in her esophagus six month ago that put her in the pet hospital for a week. Our journey over the past two years has taught me patience and strength. Izzy is my rock - two weeks ago my husband of almost 40 years ago died suddenly and this 25 pound, diabetic, sight impaired dog has brought me through this. I know this post does not have much to do with diabetes, except that those who are new to this disease, don't give up and be patient.

jesse girl 03-17-2018 10:36 AM

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The loss of your husband is a difficult thing to deal with . Glad Izzy was there to comfort you . I look at these things as gifts . If izzy did not get diabetes and these other challenges and show what strength is all about and your determination to keep her with you we could be having a different discussion

It will be a new reality for you . My mom has now been a widow for over 30 years . After my fathers passing she sold the family house and went touring across the country . Quite the explorer . She lives with my brother now has nice friends and lives a life very different from what she thought and its not better or worse just different

Happy birthday to Izzy

Isabelle 03-20-2018 05:41 PM

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Thank you for your words of encouragement.

LizE 03-21-2018 08:39 AM

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I'm so sorry to hear about your husband's passing. The loss of a spouse is one of the most stressful events anyone will have to deal with. I'm glad you've got Izzy to help you through it all and grateful that she is still with you.

I grew with Scotties and have a real soft spot for them. In my (slightly biased) opinion, ground terriers are a special group and Scotties even more so. Putting up with all that stubbornness over the years has paid off, giving you a true survivor and loyal companion. Snickers and I are keeping you both in our thoughts and prayers.

Isabelle 01-12-2019 06:50 AM

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I havve not posted for a while. Isabelle (aka Izzy) is doing great - active for an almost 11 year old girl and continuing to be her stubborn scottie self. However, for the past three months she has had a sore on her face. We have been to the vet countless times to have it checked. The vet did a biopsy which found that it was infected and Izzy was on antibiotis for a while. The wound is definately better but I continue to have to clean it regularly. The vet does not want to have to suture it if at all possible and we both realize that it will take longer to heal since Izzy is diabetic. We will visit the vet again next week. I wonder if anyone else with a diabetic dog has had a similar experience with a small wound that just refused to hear?

jesse girl 01-12-2019 07:15 AM

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Jesse being 14 has all kinds of bumps and lumps but they are not oozing . I have never had them checked out . She has had 2 anal sak infections .The first was lanced and set up to drain . It did not heal so I went to another vet where she went into surgery to clean the sak out and packet it with antibiotics . That did the trick . The other i was able to express the puss out of her sak and it healed on its own

Haven't really seen any problems with healing in jesses diabetic life except for the beginning and that was challenging to say the least

glad izzy is doing well . Hope the infection clears up soon

Isabelle 01-17-2019 02:55 PM

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I decided to take Izzy to visit the vet to get her facial wound checked. After two months of antibiotics and three months of cleaning twice a day the wound is still oozing so she is scheduled for surgery in a week to close the wound with a few sutures. I am sure she will be fine, except for her barking and whining the morning of surgery when she can not eat breakfast, but I will be on pins and needles all day. They will also take a snip for a biopsy to check for cancer.

Does anyone have expereince with surgery on their diabetic dog?

jesse girl 01-17-2019 08:31 PM

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With jesses procedure for her infected sak the vet suggested to just use gas to put her out . It was a tad more expensive but it doesnt have the affect of typical anesthesia would have and said it would be much safer way to do it and i agreed . The procedure went well and she woke up not so groggy and was able to eat he meal and get insulin an hour after . I was surprised that she had an appetite

As far as insulin i actually did not know we were going to do the procedure that afternoon as i thought he was going to have a look see . He said we can do it now and i agreed . Check blood sugar and it was at a time when active insulin was fading for jesse so i wasn't to worried of going to low

Many caretakers with there dogs getting anesthesia for a procedure do reduce insulin . Some dont give it at all especially if not fed

For jesse i only give her one meal a day and i have been giving her a reduced dose of insulin without food for a long time so i dont have a problem with that

So is very possible one meal and dose can be affected with a 2 meal system so you have to account for that . Remember having sugar higher during and after the procedure is ok

Isabelle 01-18-2019 05:48 AM

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Thanks for your post. I will ask the vet about gas. I was told not to feed her the morning of the procedure and to give her half her dose of insulin.

jesse girl 01-18-2019 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Isabelle (Post 166701)
Thanks for your post. I will ask the vet about gas. I was told not to feed her the morning of the procedure and to give her half her dose of insulin.

sounds reasonable

hope everything goes well

Judi 01-21-2019 06:31 AM

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hope things go well! my dog had a dental done when she was diabetic. the vet was nervous and very very careful and it went fine!

Isabelle 01-25-2019 12:42 PM

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Izzy was supposed to have a simple suture of a wound that would not heal - to be performed by her regular vet, whom I trust. However she is almost 11 and diabetic and I had second thoughts especially since there are two animal hospitals within an hours drive. The bottom line is that the surgery has been postponed until mid February at Mass Vet Referrl Hospital where they have every kind of specialist on staff. Better to be safe than sorry. In the pre op blood work, her kidney levels were elevated so now her diet needs to be adjusted to accomodate her diabetes aa well as her kidneys. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it. Never a dull moment with a diabetic dog!

jesse girl 01-25-2019 01:55 PM

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Yes its nice to have all the technology and experience at your disposal for izzy

Not sure about the diet change as i have no experience with kidney function maybe you could just add some supplements to the existing diet . A change in diet can be good if your having difficulties with the existing . I have altered jesses homemade diet over the years for particular reasons

Remember changing diet can alter regulation and the amount of insulin needed

hope things go well with the procedure

Raysaint 01-27-2019 06:22 AM

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Kidney levels could just be a mild infection. My dog has had them. How were the white blood cells? If elevated, that shows they may be fighting an infection.

Isabelle 01-28-2019 07:09 AM

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We are hoping that the elevated kidney enzymes are the result of an infection, Good point on checking the white blood cells. She has been on and off (now on) antibiotics since the wound appeared in October. During surgery the vet will dig out any remaining infected tissue, take a biopsy to check for cancer and suture it. I feel better taking her to a specialty verterinary hospital chock full of animal medical specialists. I am fortunate to live in the vicinity and to have pet health insurance for her. In the mean time, she is feeling fine but not too pleased with me cleaning her wound twice a day. Thank you for your reply and as a result, your support.

Isabelle 02-23-2019 12:21 PM

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Izzy has a host of health issues. A quick recap - a facial wound just below her eye appeared 4 months ago and the vet treated it with antibiotics with 3 times a day cleanings at home. She was avoiding surgery but when it appeared that the would was getting better but not healing, she decided to stitch it and do a biopsy. The pre surgery blood work showed kidney problems so I decided to get a referral to a specialty hospital since hwe were now dealign with diabetes and kidney problems. The surgical consult resulted in a diagnosis of a tooth infection at the root with a referral to a specialty dentist. At this visit, I inquired if the veterinary hospital had a nutritionist on staff since we were now dealing with diabetes and kidney issues. The veterinary nutritionist recommended an ultrasound to check on her kidneys and her other abdominal organs. This showed sludge in her gallbladder and a mass on her liver, A complete body CT scan confirmed the abcess in ther tooth and a mass that is confined to the liver and operable. In the mean time, the nutritionist formulated a personalized diet for Izzy's diabetes, liver, kidney and gallbladder issues for me to cook. I spent the morning cooking and weighing cooked sweet potatoes, collard greens and white meat chicke mixed with Fiber One cereal and a bit of walnut oil. So Izzy has a week's worth of meals - 3 times a day despite her diabetes (for her gallbladder). I also baked some treats from the mixture. The prognosis is good since it appears that we caught these problems early. And this all started with a simple blip on her face!

jesse girl 02-23-2019 01:35 PM

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Good catch hope all goes well . I have been home cooking for jesse for 8 years and she just enjoys dinner time . It will be interesting to see how blood sugar does with the new diet

Isabelle 03-23-2019 04:45 PM

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I have been cooking for Izzy for a month and she transitioned to eating only her special diet for 2 weeks now. Her blood glucose level has dropoed as has the amount of insulin required. She has successfully recovered from her tooth extractions and now we will face the removal of a tumor on her liver. She is a tough cookie fof a 25 pound dog.

jesse girl 03-23-2019 07:29 PM

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One step at a time fingers and paws crossed for izzy . Jesse has enjoyed her homemade diet and for us i have no plans of changing that .

glad the tooth problem was taken care of

Isabelle 03-31-2019 05:22 PM

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I had a worrisome week with Izzy. She has been on a new diet for a month which was developed for her health issues - diabetes, elevated kidney levels, sludge in her gallblader and elevated liver values It worked a bit too well and all of a sudden her glucose levels plummeted to between 60 and 80 and she refused to eat. After a week of substituting food (approved by her nutritionist), altering levels of insulin, I think we have it right. Her values are in the lowest they have been for her, between 100nand 200 and her insulin has dropped from 18 units of humulin n twice daily to 8 units. Thanks to her local vet, her nutritionist and her internist who have put up with a neurotic owner(me) when Izzy was so lethargic she could hardly move.

jesse girl 03-31-2019 05:30 PM

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congrats . diet is so important for overall health

LizE 04-02-2019 01:15 PM

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Wow. That was a huge drop in insulin in a pretty short time. Looks like being neurotic paid off for you that Izzy came thru so well.

Isabelle 05-04-2019 05:07 AM

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This is an update on Isabelle. I started home cooking with a diet of mostly sweet potatoes, collard greens, chicken and Fiber One. Her numbers dropped and her insulin was cut in half - great news! She successfully had her gallbladder removed as well as a tumor on her liver removed, but post survery she refused to eat her home cooked diet, refused to eat prescription diabetes friendly commercial dog food. It was not that she was not hungry but she wanted to eat what she wanted to eat and nothing else would do. She also has kidney problems so the protein that she craves had to be limited. Finally, after trying numerous foods approved by her nutrtrionist, we found a combination that works - Blue prescription kidney kibble mixed with a bit of Royal Canin kidney friendly canned food. We are now ratcheting up her insulin little by little (sigh) to get her sugar in line with ner kidney healthy diet. It has been a long 6 weeks, but she is finally returning to her old sassy self.

Judi 05-04-2019 06:47 AM

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I'm so happy to see this! Hang in there. I had to remind myself more than once that nobody wins a prize because their dog is on less insulin. She needs what she needs and not having to home cook her meals is way less hassle for you!

Keep getting sassy Isabelle. xoxo Judi

Isabelle 05-28-2019 06:26 PM

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Isabelle keeps me on my toes! We had to adjust her diet to accomodate her kidney levels and her taste buds. She decided that she did not like my home cooking so after many taste tests we compromised on a kidney friendly diet that she would eat and adjusted her insulin to 13 units. She gained back her weight and recovered from her gallbladder and liver surgery - and last week I noticed that she was hesitant on her walks, sniffing more - because her good eye now had developed a cataract to match the one on her other eye! It appears that she still has partial vision but I made an appointment at the opthamologist for her. She has been through so much in the past few months! We will discuss cataract surgery so she can see from at least one eye. She is a trooper

jesse girl 05-28-2019 07:07 PM

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Its amazing how we have to adapt to new challenges

Isabelle 06-29-2019 06:16 AM

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An update on Izzy. After seeing the opthamologist it was determined that she has sudden retina degeneration (unrelated to her diabetes) and "rock hard" cataracts. Cataract surgery would not help her vision so I am her seeing eye person. She is adjusting remarkeably well and is fine around the house and a bit hesitant walking outdoors, but getting more confident every day. She knows to step up when I say "up" and down when hearing "down." She is the princess in a little red wagon I bought at a yard sale for longer walks with me. We finally have her insulin adjusted for her kidney friendly diet and have discovered a new food for treats - raw asparagus! She has weathered this latest health issue like a champ.

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