Pamala - Need help with curves

[Pamala]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

it may be the future for monitoring since it is wireless there might be a time you may be able to monitor remotely say from work

if I had to pay a thousand a year that still may be worth it there is a need for it and it will provide better regulation I am sure a large percentage of people still do not test or cant it is something i would think about if it is reliable

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I think it is a one time fee of a $1,000 but I could be wrong. I am going to check it out because if it is available I may go for it. The strips cost too much and if i am going to do this for the next 6 years that will get very expencive!
Also I am going crazy not knowing the numbers every day!

[Patty]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

today we reduced her wet by 1/8 can each meal.
I think my husband and I would have to stop eating if I spend that much money on strips and take blood that often!
White rice for humans turns into starch and then into surgar. Wouldn't organic brown rice be better or do dogss not digest brown rice? yes she is on 4 unit twice a day. I am not sure what I am looking at on the link you sent me.

In order to reduce a large drop in blood sugar, you need a food that will be converted to glucose faster. White rice will do this as it is a simple carb and is digested quickly.

Brown rice is often used for a drop later in the day since it is a complex carb and takes longer to be digested.

So while it sounds like it would be contrary using white rice with a diabetic, there are cases where it can help.

The link was simply a reference for where I got the caloric info on the rice.

As far as the continuous glucose monitor, my understanding is they are using these on dogs who don't tolerate curves/testing well. They are left on for a 3 day period. If you did acquire one the probe/sensor must be replaced/rotated every 5-7 days or so just as insulin pumps need to be rotated on humans to prevent infection. This does require shaving the hair, so you may wind up with a patchwork dog .

Here a picture of a dog wearing a Dexcom CGM. The white oval shape portion is the sensor and the dog has the remote monitor attached to a harness:

http://www.scottishterriernews.com/2...-cataract.html

Hope that helps some,
Patty

[Pamala]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

In order to reduce a large drop in blood sugar, you need a food that will be converted to glucose faster. White rice will do this as it is a simple carb and is digested quickly.

Brown rice is often used for a drop later in the day since it is a complex carb and takes longer to be digested.

So while it sounds like it would be contrary using white rice with a diabetic, there are cases where it can help.

The link was simply a reference for where I got the caloric info on the rice.

As far as the continuous glucose monitor, my understanding is they are using these on dogs who don't tolerate curves/testing well. They are left on for a 3 day period. If you did acquire one the probe/sensor must be replaced/rotated every 5-7 days or so just as insulin pumps need to be rotated on humans to prevent infection. This does require shaving the hair, so you may wind up with a patchwork dog .

Here a picture of a dog wearing a Dexcom CGM. The white oval shape portion is the sensor and the dog has the remote monitor attached to a harness:

http://www.scottishterriernews.com/2...-cataract.html

Hope that helps some,
Patty

WoW Patty you sure do know where to find things well. I guess I'll can the idea of that monator!
Patty I hope I reduced my girls cals correctly and she is not getting to little.
I am so frustrated with my vet. They got the vet tec to calulate her cals and that's why she gained weight. I think she calulated on her presant weight and not her ideal weight. Hill's has some sort of calorie counter they use and I can't find it on the net. I think only a vet can get to it. The other calculator is for a differant dog food. Do you think that matters?

[Pamala]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Patty if we add the white rice should we take some of her other food away so we don't go over the cals and continue the rice as her regular diet for ever if it works.

[jesse girl]

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Where would the fun be in this?! Testing time is a special daughter / father bonding time in this house.

Craig

your wright crag I would miss that beautiful lip for testing and and she usually gives me a kiss when we are done not sure why she does that maybe to say thank you

[Patty]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Pamala,
I think Jenny listed a good caloric calculator several posts back before you switched to full can of wet food. Most of the calculator's on the web are pretty good I think and come close if you put your dog's ideal weight into the formula.

You said you'd taken out 1/8 can of the wet food. I think that's a good start. Are you able to measure or weigh it for consistency vs. just eyeballing it?

When adding any new food supplement, keep in mind it's a gradual process. You may not get it right the first time but you need to leave some time for the body to process the change. I'd start slow with the white rice. It's always a guess at first but you could start with 1 Tablespoon and work up to more if needed.

Patty

[Pamala]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Pamala,
I think Jenny listed a good caloric calculator several posts back before you switched to full can of wet food. Most of the calculator's on the web are pretty good I think and come close if you put your dog's ideal weight into the formula.

You said you'd taken out 1/8 can of the wet food. I think that's a good start. Are you able to measure or weigh it for consistency vs. just eyeballing it?

When adding any new food supplement, keep in mind it's a gradual process. You may not get it right the first time but you need to leave some time for the body to process the change. I'd start slow with the white rice. It's always a guess at first but you could start with 1 Tablespoon and work up to more if needed.

Patty

Thanks Patty this helps me alot! I found a web site that shows how we take blood but I don't know how to put the pictures on here. There was somone on here that had a hard time taking it from the mouth so I thought this would be helpful. http://www.caninediabetes.org/tuggerblood.html

[Pamala]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Is it safe to give revolution to my girl?

[pat3332]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Pamala,

Your best bet is to check with your vet, but if you do a search on the forum for revolution, there have been some discussions. Here's one.

http://k9diabetes.com/forum/showthre...ght=revolution

As with everything else, every dog reacts differently to the same medications. Some may have an increase in their glucose levels and others no increase at all. Sometimes all you can do is try it and monitor your dogs levels.

Most of this stuff is like using human medications. If you ever read the possible side effects of most antibiotics, they will usually say something like May cause death in some instances. If you read all of the possible side effects of every medication you ever took, you never would have taken it.

Check with your vet first and since most of the most effective flea, tick and other parasite medications are usually by prescription, you'll probably need to see the vet first to get the Rx anyway.

I usually use the Advantix for my dogs and the Interceptor for the other parasites, but sometimes I think the fleas and ticks may build up a resistance to certain meds and it may be a good idea to switch occasionally and I was thinking of trying the Revolution this year.

Pat

[Pamala]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Pamala,

Your best bet is to check with your vet, but if you do a search on the forum for revolution, there have been some discussions. Here's one.

http://k9diabetes.com/forum/showthre...ght=revolution

As with everything else, every dog reacts differently to the same medications. Some may have an increase in their glucose levels and others no increase at all. Sometimes all you can do is try it and monitor your dogs levels.

Most of this stuff is like using human medications. If you ever read the possible side effects of most antibiotics, they will usually say something like May cause death in some instances. If you read all of the possible side effects of every medication you ever took, you never would have taken it.

Check with your vet first and since most of the most effective flea, tick and other parasite medications are usually by prescription, you'll probably need to see the vet first to get the Rx anyway.

I usually use the Advantix for my dogs and the Interceptor for the other parasites, but sometimes I think the fleas and ticks may build up a resistance to certain meds and it may be a good idea to switch occasionally and I was thinking of trying the Revolution this year.

Pat

I was just wondering if any of these things are harmful to diabetics. She has been on revolution for years but I was afraid because she is a diabetic. My husband already gave it to her for June and July. All these poison being put in her scares me.

[pat3332]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Like I said, just monitor the glucose levels to see if there is much change. Normally if there is any change it is temporary. Life is continually making choices and decisions and if I don't use something to kill the fleas, ticks, heart worms and other parasites, then the dogs will suffer and possibly die from the parasites, the fleas and ticks take over and infest not only the dogs, but also the human residents (ourselves). They take over our house and yard and we then have to fumigate the house and spray the yard with poisons that are probably even worse than the flea and tick medications and we have to move out for a while and hope we killed them all and don't have to go through it all over again, or end up paying a small fortune to have a professional come out and do it.

So, I just check with my vet, use what he recommends and watch for changes in the glucose levels and any other changes or symptoms that are different from the norm.

Pat

[Pamala]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Like I said, just monitor the glucose levels to see if there is much change. Normally if there is any change it is temporary. Life is continually making choices and decisions and if I don't use something to kill the fleas, ticks, heart worms and other parasites, then the dogs will suffer and possibly die from the parasites, the fleas and ticks take over and infest not only the dogs, but also the human residents (ourselves). They take over our house and yard and we then have to fumigate the house and spray the yard with poisons that are probably even worse than the flea and tick medications and we have to move out for a while and hope we killed them all and don't have to go through it all over again, or end up paying a small fortune to have a professional come out and do it.

So, I just check with my vet, use what he recommends and watch for changes in the glucose levels and any other changes or symptoms that are different from the norm.

Pat

Pat you always say just the right things to calm me down Thanks!

[Pamala]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

Have you ever used test strips after the expiry date?

[pat3332]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

I've never had test strips that lasted that long. If you find some old ones that have expired, I would probably just do a test with the control solution and if they were in the correct range use them rather than waste them. If I tested them and got readings a lot different than normal, I'd probably trash them. With Bailey, that might be difficult to tell however since sudden abnormal readings are normal for him.

Others may disagree however.

Pat

[Patty]

Re: Pamala - Need help with curves

You could also compare to a new batch of strips if you have any to see if there's a difference in readings.