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  • Re: Lily - My English Setter

    She's beautiful and echoing what Jessegirl said, she looks great.
    Daisy 12 1/2 y/o 20lb Mini Schnauzer - 115g chicken breast, 45g chana dal, 55g green beans all chopped in a food processor, 20g Hills Perfect Weight, 1 tbs pumpkin, 8 units Novolin N q12h. Other meds-1/4t d-mannose twice daily, 1 Proviable DC daily, 1 multivitamin, 1/4t ground eggshells each meal, 1200mcg methyl B12 daily, 5mg zyrtec daily

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    • Re: Lily - My English Setter

      Always great to see a beautiful Lily picture!!!
      Soaphie = 15 yr old Border/Berner mix dx 07/08. ~8.25 units a.m./p.m. vetsulin, blind/deaf. Ultra Senior, Vital Beef/Bison, Brown Rice and lots of loving. Soaphie passed on October 29, 2015. Sydney = 14.5 yr old Aussie/Shar Pei mix dx 11/10. NPH-varies w/ predinisone a.m./p.m., blind/deaf. Sydney passed on June 3, 2014.

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      • Re: Lily - My English Setter

        She is so pretty!

        My goodness at that snow. It was 80 degrees in Central Arkansas today.
        Maggie - 15 1/2 y/o JRT diagnosed 9/2007, Angel status on 6/20/16. Her mantra was never give up but her body couldn't keep up with her spirit. Someday, baby.......

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        • Re: Lily - My English Setter

          I think Raysaint mentioned this earlier, but the AAHA has released their 2018 Veterinary Diabetes Management Guidlines for Dogs and Cats...

          https://www.aaha.org/guidelines/diab...s/default.aspx

          They even include algorithms (flow charts) for getting dogs regulated...

          https://www.aaha.org/public_document...nitoringv3.pdf
          Lily is a 62 lb English Setter, born 07-27-2007.
          Diabetes: Aug 2013
          Went peacefully to heaven on 04-24-2021
          Video in Lily’s memory: https://www.facebook.com/10000201631...3260300417807/

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          • Re: Lily - My English Setter

            Originally posted by MikeMurphy View Post
            I think Raysaint mentioned this earlier, but the AAHA has released their 2018 Veterinary Diabetes Management Guidlines for Dogs and Cats...

            https://www.aaha.org/guidelines/diab...s/default.aspx

            They even include algorithms (flow charts) for getting dogs regulated...

            https://www.aaha.org/public_document...nitoringv3.pdf
            Many of the items that i discovered managing jesses diabetes is reflected in these guidelines showing a well thought out protocols on managing the disease

            The most difficult time in regulation is the beginning and starting insulin therapy especially for a dog with other medical challenges as you have seen with your dog lily mike . Jesse had multiple complications and her history of epilepsy which made jesse quite challenging but not impossible

            I might even project a complete curve be done before insulin therapy begins . The reason is the staring dose and what to begin with . If numbers are lower maybe 300s or lower across the board you may want to start with a lower starting dose . Jesse was one of those dogs that needed a dose lower than the normal stating dose which was an obstacle to her regulation .
            Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
            Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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            • Re: Lily - My English Setter

              Originally posted by jesse girl View Post
              Many of the items that i discovered managing jesses diabetes is reflected in these guidelines showing a well thought out protocols on managing the disease

              The most difficult time in regulation is the beginning and starting insulin therapy especially for a dog with other medical challenges as you have seen with your dog lily mike . Jesse had multiple complications and her history of epilepsy which made jesse quite challenging but not impossible

              I might even project a complete curve be done before insulin therapy begins . The reason is the staring dose and what to begin with . If numbers are lower maybe 300s or lower across the board you may want to start with a lower starting dose . Jesse was one of those dogs that needed a dose lower than the normal stating dose which was an obstacle to her regulation .
              Originally posted by MikeMurphy View Post
              I think Raysaint mentioned this earlier, but the AAHA has released their 2018 Veterinary Diabetes Management Guidlines for Dogs and Cats...

              https://www.aaha.org/guidelines/diab...s/default.aspx

              They even include algorithms (flow charts) for getting dogs regulated...

              https://www.aaha.org/public_document...nitoringv3.pdf
              Good points jesse girl.

              Lily’s undiagnosed hypothyroidism really threw a monkey wrench into her regulation. We lost several months and she almost lost her life because of it.
              Lily is a 62 lb English Setter, born 07-27-2007.
              Diabetes: Aug 2013
              Went peacefully to heaven on 04-24-2021
              Video in Lily’s memory: https://www.facebook.com/10000201631...3260300417807/

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              • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                Thanks for the AAHA links..I long to read everything I can!!!!!!
                Squeaker, 15yo, 8.4 lbs, chihuahua, diagnosed 4/26/2021. Diabetes Mellitus 1 +Adrenal Dependent Cushings.
                https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...wD4/edit#gid=0

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                • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                  OMG..It's a good thing she has you!!!!!
                  Squeaker, 15yo, 8.4 lbs, chihuahua, diagnosed 4/26/2021. Diabetes Mellitus 1 +Adrenal Dependent Cushings.
                  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...wD4/edit#gid=0

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                  • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                    We were watching TV while reading your posts and saw THIS VERY LARGE DOG out the window..thought of Lilly!!!! We found her home!!!
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                    Last edited by bichons9; 04-18-2018, 02:08 PM.
                    Squeaker, 15yo, 8.4 lbs, chihuahua, diagnosed 4/26/2021. Diabetes Mellitus 1 +Adrenal Dependent Cushings.
                    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...wD4/edit#gid=0

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                    • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                      MikeMurphy - I did a search for Nulo cod and lentils and you came up. I know you switched back to Merrick because you were seeing higher fasting numbers , but can you tell me if you saw a food spike with the Nulo? Bigger or smaller as compared to what you saw with other foods?

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                      • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                        Originally posted by Lolo View Post
                        MikeMurphy - I did a search for Nulo cod and lentils and you came up. I know you switched back to Merrick because you were seeing higher fasting numbers , but can you tell me if you saw a food spike with the Nulo? Bigger or smaller as compared to what you saw with other foods?
                        She was getting 3 units of R and 13 units of N while eating Nulo. She definitely was having a food spike with Nulo, but the R compensated for it. See her curve below.

                        I really liked the ingredients and the protein and fat %. Seems like it should work well for a diabetic dog. It does have a moderate fishy smell.

                        Lily is a 62 lb English Setter, born 07-27-2007.
                        Diabetes: Aug 2013
                        Went peacefully to heaven on 04-24-2021
                        Video in Lily’s memory: https://www.facebook.com/10000201631...3260300417807/

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                        • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                          Mine doesn’t get R anymore on the levemir so I was looking for something with less of a spike than her current Wellness Core that has potatoes.

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                          • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                            Originally posted by Lolo View Post
                            Mine doesn’t get R anymore on the levemir so I was looking for something with less of a spike than her current Wellness Core that has potatoes.
                            LOLA..Can you give an update on how the Levemir is doing??? I have about had it with Vetsulin!!!
                            Squeaker, 15yo, 8.4 lbs, chihuahua, diagnosed 4/26/2021. Diabetes Mellitus 1 +Adrenal Dependent Cushings.
                            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...wD4/edit#gid=0

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                            • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                              Originally posted by bichons9 View Post
                              LOLA..Can you give an update on how the Levemir is doing??? I have about had it with Vetsulin!!!
                              I posted an update in Lucy’s thread here. It’s def not perfect, but I think it’s an improvement... except for a killer food spike.
                              http://k9diabetes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7540

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                              • Re: Lily - My English Setter

                                Just checking in with an update. Lily is doing well, but slowing down now that the warmer weather has finally arrived. Our walks are shorter and less frequent.

                                I had to increase her insulin a bit. She’s now getting 13.5 units of Novolin N and 3.5 units of R.

                                Lily is a 62 lb English Setter, born 07-27-2007.
                                Diabetes: Aug 2013
                                Went peacefully to heaven on 04-24-2021
                                Video in Lily’s memory: https://www.facebook.com/10000201631...3260300417807/

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