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Old 05-14-2009, 03:10 PM
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There is information on the UTK site for shipping from outside the US:

http://www.vet.utk.edu/diagnostic/en...y/shipping.php
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:29 PM
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and some info on Lysodren in the UK:

Lysodren in the UK/England

http://www.penstone-vets.co.uk/cushings.htm
Treatment of the pituitary-dependant Cushing's Disease requires administration of tablets. A chemotherapy-type drug is used called Lysodren (Mitotane-OPPD). This is a human drug that has to be imported into the U.K. from the U.S.A. under special license.

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Old 05-14-2009, 03:58 PM
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Julie,

You're not boring! I remember reading that Pip was abused prior to coming to you but I didn't realize how badly. What a horrid life he had in the past, poor boy.

He is one very, very lucky boy to have you as his Mum!! Spoiled??...I believe he's very much loved!!!

Louise
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:03 AM
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Hi Everyonr

Thank you for all your replies,
I know about mititane i asked my vet practice about itbut they are not licensed for that drug but there is a dog down the from my house who also has cushing and her dog is on mitotane (she is at a different practice than mine.i have another dog that live not so far from me and the dogs has cushings she is also on vetoryl her dog doesn't seem to lose any weight and is and still has syptoms of his cushing but as i say hes on vetoryl she is at the same vets practice as us and they prefer vetoryl .

Anyway going on to we called our vet practice yesterday afternoon at 1.30pm, for advice as he really is not well at all .the vet nurse said our normal vet was at lunch but she never got in contact at all (which is very unlike her as she always contacts you back my vet is always very hectic as she a very popluar vet with every one but she only the monday and friday and it doesn't matter if she full booked up with appointments she will always fit Pip in her schedule and if sshe cannot the other vet will go and have a quick chat but she does copme throw and see while we are with the other vet but thats very rare) anyway going back to Pip hes right side is very painful and his stomach is sore he skin is very he's ears still very red and irrating him doesn't like them being touched he's getting like open sores on his stomach he's got know enregy and very lethergic he's not doing anything my mum called and the nurse said she would call us back but a 8pm our vet never and my mum said this is not like onr vet as she hasn't called us mum said there must of been something going that she could'nt get back to us.
So in the end my mum called the out of hours number the vet called us back mum explian what was going on with pip as i've already said she said that even when pip is not well he always has something for a little play but hee's not doing anything he got nothing no energy (by this time i was very unhappy mum said we called and the vet hasnt got back to us she said its not like our vet not to call and she apolized on her behalf of the practice but she told my our vet will always contact is back because its Pip and said our surname even if our normal vet got the message at 10pm she wopuld call because its Pip the vet mum spoke to is going to find out what going on and why our vet never got back tous (but said yes its Pip and she would get back to us because its Pip.
anyway we've done what the vet has told us to do and we just have to watch him over the weekend.
Julie Pip
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Old 05-16-2009, 11:06 AM
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Hi Julie,

I am so sorry Pip is having so many problems. When did the sores start? Has he been able to see his usual vet yet? I am worried about this latest development in Pip's situation.

It is a shame you can't convince his vet to use the mitotane. It seems that the vetryol is just not doing him justice. The infections, sores, and continuing lack of control of the cush signs tells me his disease is not being addressed by the Trilo. Pip has been through so much in his life, it is not fair that he now has to suffer from this, too.

Please keep in touch and let us know how he is doing.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:44 PM
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I always see my normal vet and if pip is ill in the week the other vets treat him and put us on till our normal vet is back on a friday i left message and they said she would call but as i said already she never so we called the out of hours practice who apolgised and she said if we call she our normal vet would contact us back because its pip
anyway the sores started to appear on wedensday the vet my mium spoke to said to bath the which i'm doing with hibiscrub which if i took pip to the vets thats excalty what they would use she also said that Pips belly maybe just upset and sometimes cushing dogs do get an upset stomach and can be painful.

i've given him piriton for the redness of his skin and also to help with the irration of his ears .
this morning i gave pip a bath as he was uncomfortable with his skin i use COATEX which i get from the vets this has help he just pinkish on his stomach now and a little more settled i still bathe these sores

I worried something else is going on with Pip other than his cushings and have said this to my normal vets as she knows every part of pip she checked his liver kidneys pancreas she also checked his thyroid and 1 reading con=mes back low which happens with a cushings dog as i have a friend with cushings and her dog's reading for thyroid come back low but its not actual the thyriod causing the problem also my vet has tested him for diabetes that was feb march time and she until then he didn't have that.
My vets seems to think its behavourial problems with Pip but all he suffersw with is sepration anxiety but when i m home hes fine he never left home alone there is always someone there with him and if there is i take to a friends and he will stay there till i go and collect him
I KNOW MY DOG AND SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH HIM OTHER THAN IS CUSHINGS .
Julie Pip
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:18 PM
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Hi Sweetie,

We always say we know our babies better than anyone and if you think something other than the Cushing's is going on, then follow your gut. That is certainly a real possibility. His case has been frustrating and usual from the start. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find there was some other issue at play here. Do you have access to specialists there? It might the wisest move to have Pip seen by an internal specialist with fresh eyes. It's easy for the vets that see them all the time (and us sometimes ) to get tunnel vision and contribute everything to the Cushing's, so fresh eyes may be just the ticket for Pip.

I'm glad he is somewhat more settled after his bath and hope he has a better day today.

Hugs,
Leslie and the girls
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:40 PM
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Hey Julie,

How is Pip doing? I sure hope you have seen some improvements! Keeping you and Pip in my thoughts and prayers for good days to come.

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Old 05-19-2009, 11:45 AM
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Hi Lesile,

Pip is doing fine his ears are finally getting there he pants alot .
But he's doing loads better this afternoon i've been doing some gardening ans Pip's been doing he's bit i layed the plants where i wanted them and he was digging holes where he wants the plants and if i put them in different place he would pull the up.
Now regarding walking thats a bit hit and miss at the moment if he goes for a walk in the morning he's very reluctant to go for his evening walk he really has slowed down quite alot over the last month or so .but i think thats alot to do with his hip dyspalisa (needs a hip replacement) and his arthritis in the rest of his joints.
He still got a good appetite I HAVE A DOG THAT WAGGING HIS TALE ALL THE TIME AGAIN AND HAS THE SPARKLE BACK IN HIS EYES AND HE FOLLOWS BE ABOUT LIKE IF USE TO DO. HE PLAYS WHEN HE WANTS TO WHEN HE HAD ENOUGH HE STOPS.
although he sleeps alot now ,My vet said Pip would always be old before his time.He's 10 in december he's a large dog and his weight is against him.
I think Now i'm starting to see the ageng process with Pip now
julie
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Old 05-19-2009, 12:02 PM
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Julie,

So glad to hear that Pip's ears are finally on the mend and that he is feeling better again.

The aging process does affect all of us, but as long as Pip is still wagging his tail, plays, has the sparkle in his eyes and has a Mum that loves him....that's what counts IMO!!

Give your boy some extra pets from me.

Louise
 

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