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Old 10-13-2018, 04:24 PM
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i wouldnt do a curve for a week because of the changes you.ve made that take at least 5 to 7 days to take affect on the blood sugar.

raising insulin yesterday. stopping the melatonin. eating a treat.

just test periidically to catch a low blood sugar. post here if it goes below 100

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Old 10-13-2018, 06:54 PM
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I don't think Yukon could even get to 100 with all the issues he has (Cushings, Pancreatitis, IBD).

Yukons BG has only been in the 300 and 400 range twice in two weeks. We are testing twice a day right before food/insulin shot. Other than those two readings it appears to be going up, even with the increase in insulin.

It has been in 500's and now 600/700's. I can tell he is not feeling well.
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Old 10-14-2018, 10:16 AM
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I don't think Yukon could even get to 100 with all the issues he has (Cushings, Pancreatitis, IBD).

Yukons BG has only been in the 300 and 400 range twice in two weeks. We are testing twice a day right before food/insulin shot. Other than those two readings it appears to be going up, even with the increase in insulin.

It has been in 500's and now 600/700's. I can tell he is not feeling well.
you dont know for sure if Yukon ,s bg is going lower. you need to test more especially at 1 1/2 to 2 hours after eating to see if the food and insulin are meeting up. is he drinking and urinating more?
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Hi Everyone,

So I did a 2 hour Curve today on Yukon because his levels have been so high and this is what it revealed:

YUKON’S 2 HOUR BLOOD GLUCOSE CURVE – SUNDAY, OCTOBER 14th
6:30 a.m. 608Yukon’s Blood Glucose getting up no food
6:45 a.m. Gave Yukon Food and then Shot after Food
8:45 a.m. 705
10:45 a.m. HIAlphaTrak 2 said HI only, went for a walk and drove
to my Mom’s, she gave him a small boiled chicken treat

12:45 p.m. 546

2:45 p.m. 460Gave him boiled chicken treat after taking test

4:45 p.m. 430We took a walk and swim in between 2:45 & 4:45

6:30 p.m. 498Right before getting his Dinner & Insulin Injection

8:45 p.m. ????Two Hours after Evening Injection, going to take it
Will let you know
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8:45 pm 2 hours after food and insulin 671
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Looks like your seeing high across the board and have an opportunity to raise the dose .
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:24 AM
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That curve definitely suggests that an increase is needed. At 6 units, you’re still only at the normal starting dose for Yukon’s weight.

I know your vet mentioned Somogyi Rebound, but Rebound only occurs when a dog is getting too much insulin. You’re a very long way from that.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:34 AM
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I agree - what do you think about me giving his insulin and then feeding him 20-30 minutes later to let the insulin take effect? The only reason I am saying this is because his BG spiked really high within the first 4 hours.
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I agree - what do you think about me giving his insulin and then feeding him 20-30 minutes later to let the insulin take effect? The only reason I am saying this is because his BG spiked really high within the first 4 hours.
Good thought. That may help with the food spike. But... Just remember that the whole point of giving insulin after food is so that you can adjust the dose if he doesn’t eat his full meal, preventing low BG later in the day. With his overall high BG, it wouldn’t matter right now.
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That's still a dangerous strategy, giving insulin before food, in case the dog doesn't eat.
Better to get the dose increase going week after week and work towards decent fasting sugar levels.
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