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Old 01-22-2019, 08:55 AM
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Today we are doing another curve and at his 8:30 check just now we got a reading of 58. I'd definitely been suspecting low numbers, but not this low. I gave him some corn syrup and food, about half his normal meal size. We will continue to monitor today, but any advice? This is obviously a first for us since last week was his first time having fairly normal numbers. Should I increase his food at dinner or drop his dosage? Both? How much?

Our vet is in the office tomorrow so we are on our own for dinner and breakfast unless we go to the hospital as an emergency case but he isn't exhibiting any symptoms other than sleeping.
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:05 AM
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Well the curve will not give you any ideas on regulation with the intervention with sugar and food but you do want to continue testing to make sure you can get blood sugar above a 100

At 58 you may need to reduce the dose . you cant depend on food amounts to do the job

the amount of a reduction is the difficult part
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:40 AM
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Just did another check, it's been an hour. It read 61 this time. Gave him some more karo and a little more food. Will check again in another hour.

jesse girl, that's definitely the hard part. I'm wondering 1/2 unit? 2 units? Like I really have no idea how much and I don't want a huge swing, but I also don't want to be worrying about him overnight either.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:16 AM
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Just did another check, it's been an hour. It read 61 this time. Gave him some more karo and a little more food. Will check again in another hour.

jesse girl, that's definitely the hard part. I'm wondering 1/2 unit? 2 units? Like I really have no idea how much and I don't want a huge swing, but I also don't want to be worrying about him overnight either.
thats the difficult part is how much . Early in jesses diagnosis i gave her spoonfuls of Karo . I would give he a spoonful and sugar would stabilize and test a half hour later and would be dropping again . Then i would give her another spoonful . As you can tell she was receiving to much insulin . Amazing all the karo did not make her sick

I think a minimum of one unit and 2 units maybe have a better chance at getting out of these lower levels but it still may not be enough
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:49 AM
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Another check at 10:30. 98 this time. Much better, but we will still keep checking every hour. Hopefully it doesn't go down again before dinner.
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Old 01-22-2019, 03:18 PM
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so glad you caught it. Don't forget, they can tolerate being a little high better than low. I'd definitely reduce the dose.

the same thing happened to us when my dog's cushings medicine started working too well (we used Lysodren)

I kept reducing her insulin, reducing her insulin till we had to check her cortisol again

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Old 01-23-2019, 02:21 PM
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I was glad we caught it too and didn't just assume the dose was good after last week's curve. I suspected he was going to be running low after his "good" curve last week where he was dipping below 100. He was definitely a little groggy throughout the week. Quick to sleep and slow to wake up, but otherwise normal. No shakiness or weakness or anything like that. I was expecting numbers in the 80s and 90s. Not 50s.

He ended up a little high before dinner last night at 333, but that was after three extra 1/2 size meals! I gave him his usual dinner and 6 units instead of 8. Checked him at 8:30 and he was still high at 252 so I wasn't super worried about overnight. Fasted this morning he was at 194. Another 6 units with breakfast. By 9:30 he was down to 70 so I gave him karo and a 1/2 size meal. He was at 188 a few hours later. That was our last test strip, I ran out with all the extra testing. A new box is supposed to get here today from Amazon.

Still waiting on a call from the vet.

Assuming I will be dropping the dose again at dinner. 4 units?
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good catch once again and without any strips for testing you may have to go with the 2 units you sugested just to be safe
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yeah, I'd listen to Jessegirl. It takes their bodies at least a week to adjust to a new dose so I'd go low and stick if possible.
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I was definitely planning on dropping again, but our vet called and she said to stay at 6 and test at 3 hours after dinner and breakfast since thatís his lowest point. She said skip the karo, just do the food if heís low. My husband spoke with her but it sounded like she wasnít too concerned about how low he was. She said itís more the symptoms than the number.

Amazon says the strips should be here between 6:15 and 9:00.
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