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Old 05-02-2015, 06:04 PM
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Default Our doberman Quincy's final chapter May 4, 2016

Just a test. Too new at this to even know enough to ask too many questions. Just got diagnosis today and gave first shot tonight
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Old 05-02-2015, 06:32 PM
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Welcome to the forum!
Tell us about your pup: breed, weight, type of insulin, amount of insulin, other medical problems? Really anything you can / want to share.

Your posts might be delayed showing on the forum until the forum owner approves your membership.

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Old 05-03-2015, 07:03 AM
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Thanks, Craig. I'm new at this. I suppose I need to go to the biography section?
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:25 AM
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We lost our first Dobe when she was just 8 1/2 and we were so heartbroken we didn't get another for many years. Still hurts today. But when my (then) 83 year old mother asked if we were ever going to get another Dobe, we thought it was time.

We picked out Quincy when she was 8 weeks old and we love her so much. Now she's been diagnosed with diabetes at 8 1/2. Just gave her the first insulin shot last night. She's such a good dog. Took a while to finally figure out where to get blood on her so we can check her blood sugar level. She never flinched as we made a pin cushion out of her. Poor thing.

We are very confident in our vet. We've been with him for over 30 years and he knows us well. We're retired dairy farmers so our vets became like family since we've used them so much. We don't live near town, so we have to do the monitoring and report to him what we find so he can adjust medication, if necessary. He's not a diabetes specialist, but he has several diabetic dogs in his care and isn't afraid to look up information if need be. He even does it right in front of us and shares what he's looking at.

We've started Quincy on W/D, which she likes, thankfully. 10 units of Novolin N twice a day. Her blood sugar was 305 this morning, which sure beats the 498 2 nights ago. This is scary since we've never been down this road before and don't know what to expect. Don't even know enough to know what to ask. That's why I found this forum. Hoping to learn A LOT.


If I ever figure out how to list Quincy's info like I see others have done, I'll do that. I'm not too familiar with how forums work.

Thank you to all who post so "forum challenged" people like me can read and learn
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:47 AM
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Default Quincy, the doberman

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We lost our first Dobe when she was just 8 1/2 and we were so heartbroken we didn't get another for many years. Still hurts today. But when my (then) 83 year old mother asked if we were ever going to get another Dobe, we thought it was time.

We picked out Quincy when she was 8 weeks old and we love her so much. Now she's been diagnosed with diabetes at 8 1/2. Just gave her the first insulin shot last night. She's such a good dog. Took a while to finally figure out where to get blood on her so we can check her blood sugar level. She never flinched as we made a pin cushion out of her. Poor thing.

We are very confident in our vet. We've been with him for over 30 years and he knows us well. We're retired dairy farmers so our vets became like family since we've used them so much. We don't live near town, so we have to do the monitoring and report to him what we find so he can adjust medication, if necessary. He's not a diabetes specialist, but he has several diabetic dogs in his care and isn't afraid to look up information if need be. He even does it right in front of us and shares what he's looking at.

We've started Quincy on W/D, which she likes, thankfully. 10 units of Novolin N twice a day. Her blood sugar was 305 this morning, which sure beats the 498 2 nights ago. This is scary since we've never been down this road before and don't know what to expect. Don't even know enough to know what to ask. That's why I found this forum. Hoping to learn A LOT.


If I ever figure out how to list Quincy's info like I see others have done, I'll do that. I'm not too familiar with how forums work.

Thank you to all who post so "forum challenged" people like me can read and learn
You are lucky that Quincy likes the W/D food, many dogs seem to pass on it.

How much do you think he weighs? What brand of insulin and meter are you using?

GREAT work on testing already!

Craig

Just reread and saw you are using Novolin-N
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Old 05-03-2015, 08:04 AM
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Are you getting your Novolin-N from Walmart? Only $25 for a vial there. Syringes are also pretty cheap there also.

Is your plan to stay at 10 units for about a week, and then do a "curve"? In case you haven't read, a curve is taking a blood reading before breakfast / injection and then about every two hours until the evening meal / injection. This is what most would do because it might take several days before Quincy's body learns how to use the injected insulin.

Consistency is pretty important so really try to give repeatable meals. I use a food scale to weigh the food, but for a big Dobie measuring cups might be OK.

Just thought of something about the W/D food. How much are you feeding? I know the various diabetic foods require a pretty BIG portion You will likely go through the bag pretty quickly if Quincy is a big boy. One good thing, W/D makes huge poop piles so it will be easy to see to pick-up

Weekends are normally slow on the forum so don't get discouraged if you don't meet many of the folks today.

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Old 05-03-2015, 08:18 AM
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Hello and welcome!

It sounds as if you are already doing all the right things to help Quincy deal with this which is great.

If you aren't already doing it, you might find it helpful to keep a record of all the variable things like food, insulin doses, glucose levels, any other medication. After a while it builds up a really useful picture of what your dog's particular patterns are; they are all a bit different and you end up becoming an expert in your particular dog's diabetes.

Our diabetic dog, Eddie, was about the same age as Quincy when he was diagnosed. Two and a half years later we are still at it, despite feeling very anxious about it all when we started. It does all become quite routine after a while once you get used to it!
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Hello & welcome to the best spot in the known universe for doggy diabetes information, advice & fellowship.

Sounds like you're moving in the right direction, as well as having a humble vet who admits he doesn't know everything.
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:03 AM
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BTW...welcome, and good for you on testing right away! If your Dobie has the usual elbow callous of a big dog, it's a great place for getting a blood sample to test...no hair to get in the way, and little to no feeling of the poke.
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Welcome to you and Quincy! I think you will find once things settle down that Quincy is still the same dog - your life just becomes a little more structured. It is very scary in the beginning but most figure out that these dogs are pretty tough and can withstand a few mistakes. I have made many through the years and Maggie is still around.

A good relationship with your vet is important. Many vets are very difficult to work with and aren't open to new learning. Diabetes is not covered very thoroughly for general vets so their experience coming out of school is very little and some think strictly by the book. There are many general vets who are very good with diabetes if they are willing to think of this disease as individual instead of one size fits all. My first vet was so inexperienced and was so over her head that she overdosed my dog a lot. She is a great person but I took over just in the nick of time. Now, I have an IMS who is a really great with diabetes but even he admits Maggie has taught him a thing or two. Communication is key and keeping meticulous records.

You will find many things affect blood sugar - activities, baths, snacks, infection, virtually any medication, stress, anxiety, company in your home, and squirrels. Figuring out how these things affect your dog is what home testing will show you. Some dogs are very sensitive to insulin , others very sensitive to even one extra bit of food, some go high with anxiety, some go much lower so you see what I mean. You already have a great start.

Anyway, not to overwhelm you. This is totally doable and in some ways, diabetes has given me a very close relationship with Maggie and a type of structure I never really had before. Granted, I hate diabetes but it has had some positive aspects and given me experiences I never would have had otherwise.
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