New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

[lilsweetpea]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

Ok...that's what I initially thought you'd said.

Do you use the Benadryl pink ultratabs? I learned the clear gel formula has sorbitol in it, which can accumulate in a dog's eyes. Sorbitol is part of the process that creates cataracts in diabetics, so I've steered clear of them in case.

How's Bailey doing today?

Yes we are using the pink tablets. Glad I got those! Bailey is doing well. He had a high urine reading again today so we are up to 23 units of insulin. Bailey acts as happy as ever. His water consumption is finally going down, so I am hoping we are getting closer to a solution for him. My vet is out of the office until Monday so my guess is his next BG will be next week some time.

[Shellie]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

My dog has food allergies and I've had success with limited ingredient foods. Pinnacle makes a couple and california natural also makes one. There are others but I haven't tried them. I has less success with any lamb/rice formulas. For some reason Zoe does better with fish formulas. Have you had any experience with limited ingredient foods?

I have read that they do better on fish because it's a protien that isn't routinely included in any dog foods so they don't generally become allergic to it by exposure. They could become allergic eventually but the likelyhood is that they won't.

[Cebe]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

At this point the vet has advised not changing his food because we didn't want to add another variable to the mix. Thank you for your suggestion on the limited ingredient foods. I will discuss with the vet.

And I agree with that advice.

[lilsweetpea]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

I have a One Touch blood glucose meter and I've started a curve on Bailey today. I hope to compare the meter to the drawing at the vet this week. Here is what we have so far:

Hr 1: 205 prior to shot/food
Hr 2: 281
Hr 3: 305

So far, his BG is just going up after his insulin shot. Seems to be the reverse of what we desire. :-(

I will update more as the day goes on.

[SandyL]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

Welcome to the forum!!
Don't be discouraged! Sometimes it just takes a while for the insulin to catch up with the food! so you will get higher numbers the first couple hours after they eat . Also, when doing a curve, typically you do a BG every 2 hours for at least a 12 hour period. If you do it every hour it will make for a very long day for boyh of you
Good luck today!!

Sandy

[CarolW]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

Well, now, I'll be interested in your Hour 4 reading! Which insulin is Bailey on? (and would you remind me of the dose? Can't see it from here!)

Kumbi was on Novolin-NPH insulin (I'm in Canada). It would typically kick in (onset) at from 1.5 to 2 hours after injection.

Notice that although in Hour 1 - then 2, you have increasing BG levels, the RATE of increase has slowed quite a lot by Hour 3.

I do trust you'll post the entire curve when it's finished. Meantime, don't hesitate to ask questions!

P.S. Which OneTouch model meter are you using?

Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:41:23 (PDT)

[lilsweetpea]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

Bailey received NPH insulin 23 units. We have not been able to get his diabetes under control yet. The meter is a One Touch Ultra 2.

Hr 1: 205 prior to shot/food
Hr 2: 281
Hr 3: 305
Hr 4: 274
Hr 5: 318

[farrwf]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

Bailey received NPH insulin 23 units. We have not been able to get his diabetes under control yet. The meter is a One Touch Ultra 2.

Hr 1: 205 prior to shot/food
Hr 2: 281
Hr 3: 305
Hr 4: 274
Hr 5: 318

I'm certainly no "pro", but those numbers, so far, look pretty good. Especially, considering he's dealing with some allergies and taking benedryl.

It's apparent the insulin is having an impact. ... He's down from the high 500's and acting "normal". Be interesting to see what happens to them as he runs low on "fuel", ... and insulin.

[Shellie]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

This is fascinating..like a science experiment on poor Bailey! Sort of like Craig and all his meters! lol

But this will give you great info and will help so much! You might want to stretch out to every two hours...it's going to be a long day with every hour for you both.

Keep up the good work! Hugs!

[Judi]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

looks like you are getting close. My Jenny is diabetic/cushings also and once she had a curve in the 200's, the next adjustment got her in the 100's where she has remained (knock wood)

good job on doing your own curve and I hope Bailey gets there quickly!

Judi

[MaryLea]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

Bailey received NPH insulin 23 units. We have not been able to get his diabetes under control yet. The meter is a One Touch Ultra 2.

Hr 1: 205 prior to shot/food
Hr 2: 281
Hr 3: 305
Hr 4: 274
Hr 5: 318

Welcome to the group! IMO, this is one of the best sites on the internet.

Looks like the food and insulin are playing "tag" and taking turns being "it." That's not unusual. Since the lowest and highest numbers are only slightly more than 100 points apart (so far) and they are all in the 200s and 300s, the curve looks pretty good to me, too. After you've done this for several curves, you will have a good idea of what's going on with your furry friend.

Wishing you and Bailey the best! Will be watching and cheering you on.

Mary

[lilsweetpea]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

Hr 1: 205 prior to shot/food
Hr 2: 281
Hr 3: 305
Hr 4: 274
Hr 5: 318
Hr 6: 355
Hr 7: 388
Hr 8: 310

[lilsweetpea]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

Today Bailey did not want to eat his first meal and he now has diarrhea again. :-( Poor guy can't catch a break!

What do you recommend I feed him?

Hr 1: 205 prior to shot/food
Hr 2: 281
Hr 3: 305
Hr 4: 274
Hr 5: 318
Hr 6: 355
Hr 7: 388
Hr 8: 310
Hr 10:369
Hr 11:254

[jesse girl]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

poor little guy

the curve you are seeing is a mountain type curve this curve sees a rise and then a drop at the back end but the duration of the rise is quite a long period and the drop appears to be shorter in duration

now the curve may not give a true reflection of food body and insulin because the balance may be thrown off a bit by illness do to the diarrhea

its possible a diet that is slower to digest may help or the addition of some fiber but you really want to get to the bottom of the diarrhea and if this is something that is reoccurring she may need to be checked out and a diet change might be recommended

my jesse was out of whack for an extensive period of time from pancreatitis

[peggy0]

Re: New to Forum: Bailey Cushing/Diabetic

This isn't a bad curve at all. We just need to get his food and dosage a little more in line. My biggest interest though is to get him to eat so the dosage is consistent over time. Are you adjusting the dosage based on what he eats? We don't want him to get dehydrated from the diarrhea either. I didn't see that you changed his food?? Any ideas on why he is upset?