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Old 11-20-2010, 06:45 PM
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I do the same thing Sande. Am I rolling it too fast? Should I be holding the bottle up & down, sideways, does it matter? I've even laid it on its side on the counter and rolled it with one hand so it rolls smoother. Always second guessing myself and wondering if it's something I'm doing that's making him jump around.

I'll finally get 2-3 good readings in a row and start getting excited, then he goes off the rails again. Sometimes he goes up at the first check after a meal and the next time it doesn't happen until the 2nd check. Sometimes it goes up after eating, then the next time he eats it will go down. But we'll get there.

I'm beginning to think he really feels fine and is just having fun messing with my head.

Hang in there and don't get down. Lots of good help here.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:52 AM
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And then there is this: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...7/3013802.htm?

(be sure to read it carefully to the end.)

Could fish oil raise BG simply because it is a source of calories?

Alison
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:26 PM
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Both Atlantic and Discover magazines have published pieces in the past couple of months on how little anyone "knows" about anything in medicine. Poorly designed studies, biased studies, conflicting studies, and the leaning of doctors on the newest treatments, in people, that studies haven't shown to work but were heavily marketed by the manufacturer of the drug or treatment...

After years of touting a particular definition of a healthy diet, they are finding that people who ate the healthy diet don't have any less heart attack or stroke than the ones who didn't.

I always find it interesting that the mechanism of many drugs that definitely do work - such as Imitrex for migraines - is unknown. We know it works but we don't know how. Heck, they don't even really know much about the process of the migraine.

Prozac is another interesting case. I've seen it work personally both in skeptical people and in our dog, nullifying, for me, the influence of the placebo effect. So I personally have my doubts about the recent study that showed it was no more effective than a placebo. Who you study, what you study, how you define success - they all contribute to what the study tells you, if anything. Any success in dogs, especially in extinguishing a specific behavior like tail chasing, would give credence to Prozac having a demonstrable effect, more so than even my perceptions of a reduced level of anxiety since that's not readily measured.

And the placebo effect isn't useless either. I dont give a hoot whether it's the drug or the placebo effect that solves whatever problem I'm trying to fix!

I wind up here: There is very little we (you, me, vets, M.D.s, the researchers) know for certain.

I don't know if that's the good news or the bad news!

Natalie
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Old 11-21-2010, 03:41 PM
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Very good points!! Reminds me of something I read once,

" What if the Hokey Pokey really WAS what it was all about?"....

Oh well..I just always want to make sure these crazy BG readings aren't from something I DID...

Bagel and the other pups probably get on here every night after we go to bed and have their own secret website..talking about how neurotic their human folks are,
K9Crazyparents.com or something.

We took the longest walk this afternoon and I was thinking I should have brought my phone or some Karo (which I carried forever in the dog buggy) but she did fine. Still her Bgs were 390 when it was dinner time. again, SHE acts fine..I am the frustrated one. dipping to 225 Sat night and then back up. I know the Cushings has a part....but we will touch base with the Vet tomorrow to see what he says about switching DCO and WD? For now she is curled up in her Beagle ball here beside me on the couch and I am thankful...
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:43 PM
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LOL! I love both the Hokey Pokey line and K9Crazyparents.com!
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:23 AM
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Smile!

Happy Week to all...Great readings for Bagel this AM and a half day of school before I skip out to visit with my brother! He is driving 10 hours from Memphis today and Bagel loves her Uncle!!

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