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Old 04-04-2015, 10:03 PM
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Hi all, i was curious if anyone whom has a diabetic dog is also suffering from arthritis and taking a NSAID antiinflammatory drug. My 11yr old diabetic husky has just started meloxicam/metacam after spending the last 4 months on glucosamine pills, adequan, fish oil, acupuncture, homeopathic pills which all have not really helped.

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Old 04-05-2015, 03:07 PM
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I want to say that several of the bigger dogs have taken metacam with no problem. Hopefully, some of them will chime in - holiday weekends can get kind of quiet around here.

Even a few have used steroids - it can be done but may require more insulin.
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:47 PM
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Hi all, i was curious if anyone whom has a diabetic dog is also suffering from arthritis and taking a NSAID antiinflammatory drug. My 11yr old diabetic husky has just started meloxicam/metacam after spending the last 4 months on glucosamine pills, adequan, fish oil, acupuncture, homeopathic pills which all have not really helped.

Thanks Kal
Welcome to the forum. My diabetic dog was on metacam for a very brief time. He had spinal compression and the hope was that it would provide enough inflammation relief to ease some of the mobility challenges he was having. Unfortunately for him, the metacam upset his tummy. Never to the point he vomited but there was a distinct change in his demeanor after he had a pill. After observing for a few days it was obvious to us the medication was not agreeing with him. Few things bothered my diabetic boy but the metacam was one of those things that did bother him. We saw a raise in blood glucose (bg) while he was on it but I believe it was because of the tummy discomfort it caused rather than the NSAID itself. We waited a week and tried prednisone, a steroid. That didn't upset his tummy and did provide enough inflammation relief that he was able to walk again. My senior (non-diabetic) dog has been on metacam daily for about a year now. He's 14 and it addresses arthritis pain for him. His tummy can handle it no problem.

When my diabetic boy started having mobility problems we took him to a neurologist to find out why. He was sent home with gabapentin to address some pain. After a couple of doses we had to lower his insuiln - leading us to believe the gabapentin was providing some pain relief.

Many things can impact bg in diabetic dogs. Pain is one of those things that can cause a raise in bg. If a NSAID addresses the pain you may see a need to decrease the insulin. If the NSAID causes discomfort else where (tummy troubles) you may see an increase. Many on here say every dog is different and every dog writes their own diabetes story. You know your pup best - hopefully the metacam helps provide some pain relief.
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Old 04-05-2015, 09:21 PM
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Thanks for the responses. I just started meloxicam 2 days ago, and so far, i have not seen any bg change. My biggest fear is the horror stories about nsaids but i have run out of choices as I've tried everything. I had tried gabapentin as my vet thought there maybe some neuropathy at play but it didn't help and actually caused a rise in her bgs. So right now I'm doing meloxicam at half dose to play it safe and supplementing it with tramadol and her bgs seem unaffected.

I had thought maybe high sugars from diabetes made it harder to treat arthritis as it compounds inflammation but my dog also has high liver enzymes due to her gallbladder which is complicating things at present.
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Old 04-05-2015, 10:10 PM
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We use Novox, which is a generic of Rimadyl. It's just as effective, but cheaper by far - especially if you use an online pharmacy. National Animal Hospital has the best price right now (the biggest name site you'll see commercials for is NOT the greatest on pricing). Most vets will want to do an NSAID panel on a regular basis, just for safety to watch for any changes in blood work. We've had nothing but success with the Novox - pain relief at a MUCH lower cost than buying from the vet. BTW...it is required for a vet to issue a script to be filled at the place of your choice, if it is for a drug they would be willing to supply you from their own pharmacy stock. Another way to trim cost is to get the higher strength tablets and break in half - but this only works for smaller dogs that take less than the maximum 100mg dosage. Grayson is a big boy, so he needs the full 100mg twice a day. You can have them contact your vet for direct script approval by phone or fax, so it makes ordering pretty easy too. To avoid potential stomach problems, we just give with his meals...
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Our diabetic dog Chris was on daily Metacam for years - never caused any problems with his diabetes - in fact it probably helped by controlling inflammation.

With NSAIDs, usually if there is going to be a reaction to the NSAID itself, it occurs right away. They either tolerate it fine or they get sick immediately. So if she's been on it for a couple of weeks, she is likely to be tolerating it well.

Our current dog, nondiabetic, also has been on daily Metacam for years with no ill reaction. He has some kind of pain in his back right hip.

We did use the official Metacam for dogs rather than buying the human version. Not sure if that makes a difference.

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