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    Peanut

    Peanut was diagnosed with diabetes in February 2015 after taking a steroid. He is a 10lb min pin/ chihuahua mix I adopted at the shelter in 2012. He turned 11 in July.
    I had done well managing Peanuts diabetes until this August when he developed pancreatitis. He was hospitalized over night and released the next day. He had been on 7 units of Novolin N twice a day for over a year and was well regulated it seemed.
    The internal medicine specialist we saw for pancreatitis reduced his insulin to 4 units of Novolin n saying he was suffering from the somogyi effect. He went back for another curve and seemed to be doing well. I took him to my regular vet to be treated for an ear infection the regular vet applied “osurna”. Later that night Peanut was completely lethargic, and I could tell something was wrong. I took him to the Internal Medicine which offers a 24/7 emergency department. His blood sugar was so high the machine couldn’t read it. After 3 days of hospitalization it was determined the steroids in osurna made his blood sugar go so high. He was sent home on a different insulin, vetsulin and I was told to monitor his blood sugar at home something I had not done before and struggle with.
    I have tried on the ears which had always been a sensitive area for him. I thought the sound of the lancet was scaring him and I was so frustrated I couldn’t figure out how to master this at home. After a few days of trying I gave up.
    We continued to go to the specialist every two weeks and his last curve on 10/08/18 was beautiful according to the specialist and I was told to continue with the 6 units of vetsulin. I did at this time switch him from just food for dogs balanced remedy to royal canin PW canned food.
    We went back for our next two-week curve on this past Sunday and they said his BG was 50 when I dropped him off. I don’t know how this could happen he has never been low before. They had to give him dextrose and he ended up hospitalized again for 3 nights. 3 units of vetsulin put him too low but with 2 units he went up into the 700’s. They also tried to other types of insulin and they didn’t have any better effect with those.
    He came home tonight on 3 units of vetsulin with instructions for me to feed him two extra small meals one mid-day and one before bed. Also, they told me I NEED to do the blood testing at home. This is where I am so frustrated. I tried tonight on the side of the paw before I gave his insulin and he went crazy biting and running away from me. Surely the lancet can’t hurt that much so I am thinking it is the noise scaring him? This is so hard because I feel like we have overcome and learned so much since his diagnoses but this just seems impossible!
    Does anyone have any advice for me? I am feeling drained both emotionally and financially.
    Thank you

  • #2
    Re: Peanut

    I'm so sorry you have been through the wringer. Some people use the lance from the lancing device without using the device. They just prick the skin using their hands.

    Other people mess around with the lancing device without a sharp in it when you are just hanging out to try to get the dog used to it.

    My dog was never afraid of the device but I had a really hard time getting blood. The upper lip near her canine tooth was the only place I could do it. I bought some Etta's duck jerky treats that she only got after her blood tests.

    Testing at home can be life saving but for some of us, it is hard to get to the point where it is smoothly done. Let me look for Tiggy's video. She was a min pin with quite a personality

    here is Miss Tiggy getting tested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L-Pvp4ivbU&app=desktop

    and here is a thread with some tips: http://www.k9diabetes.com/forum/show...d+test&page=12
    Last edited by Judi; 10-25-2018, 05:49 AM.
    Jenny: 6/6/2000 - 11/10/2014 She lived with diabetes and cushings for 3 1/2 years. She was one of a kind and we miss her.

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    • #3
      Re: Peanut

      That is a good video. The few times I've been able to get blood it wasn't enough. I tried again this morning on a wart. He didn't feel it at all or react that was perfect but I couldn't get enough blood and the wart is hard so I couldn't squeeze it.

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      • #4
        Re: Peanut

        What appears what happened is you had some medical challenges and may have lost your way from regulation . It happens all the time as you loose regulation maybe just temporary and start to try different things and kind of loose the place you were at . You rotated different insulin's and a food change

        There are different places and techniques on testing but most times you end up finding what what works for you . I use a one touch ultra lance device that has little noise action . places other than the inner lip may need a larger lance maybe as big as 26 gauge

        The inner lip is easy to draw blood . that is what i use on jesse but small dogs have less of a lip . Snowball is a small dog using the inner lip daily so it can be done on small dogs . You just have to stay persistent but not over do it , If its hard take a break . You can break the process down in steps not trying to do them all at once .

        you may want to read snowballs thread as she is a small dog and having some problems to regulate but has had good success testing sugar
        Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
        Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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        • #5
          Re: Peanut

          hi welcome to you and your Peanut

          sounds like he.s back on course

          have you tried a different size lancet to get more blood?
          Riliey . aka Ralphy, Alice, Big Boy
          20 lb male. 5 1/2 nph insulin. 1/2 cup fromms. black cockapoo, dx Apr 2012 . 5 1\2 yrs diabetic. 2000 to 2017

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          • #6
            Re: Peanut

            No I didn't realize there were different sizes that will be what I try next thank you

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            • #7
              Re: Peanut

              I will check out snowballs thread thank you. Yes all the changes are hard on him but they had to be done unfortunately.

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              • #8
                Re: Peanut

                Just tried it on a wart on the back of his leg at lunch and was successfully able to get a reading of 310 yay go me. So I called the vet and they said not to feed him his mid day meal if it was still that high

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                • #9
                  Re: Peanut

                  congratulations on that first test at home
                  Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
                  Jesse earned her wings on 6/21/2021

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                  • #10
                    Re: Peanut

                    Thank you for everyone's suggestions here are the numbers I got today let me know if you have any thoughts

                    7am feed and inject 3 units vetsulin
                    12:20 310
                    5:16 476
                    7pm feed and inject 3 units vetsulin
                    10pm 260

                    Cant believe I was able to test 3 times today thanks guys!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Peanut

                      way to go on the testing! the reading last night looks like insulin is starting to work again.
                      Jenny: 6/6/2000 - 11/10/2014 She lived with diabetes and cushings for 3 1/2 years. She was one of a kind and we miss her.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Peanut

                        regarding the scab

                        try rotating the test spot not always using same one and maybe try a thinner lancet
                        Riliey . aka Ralphy, Alice, Big Boy
                        20 lb male. 5 1/2 nph insulin. 1/2 cup fromms. black cockapoo, dx Apr 2012 . 5 1\2 yrs diabetic. 2000 to 2017

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                        • #13
                          Re: Peanut

                          Congrats!!!! How are things going?

                          Natalie

                          Originally posted by peanutsmom View Post
                          Thank you for everyone's suggestions here are the numbers I got today let me know if you have any thoughts

                          7am feed and inject 3 units vetsulin
                          12:20 310
                          5:16 476
                          7pm feed and inject 3 units vetsulin
                          10pm 260

                          Cant believe I was able to test 3 times today thanks guys!

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