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Old 03-05-2009, 04:45 PM
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Name: Jazzy
Breed: Lab/Chow/Maltese/Shihtzu
Birth date or age: She will be 10 on April 1, 2009
Weight: 40 lbs
Date diagnosed with diabetes: 2/24/09
Type of insulin and how often given: Vetsulin 5u 2x day
Diet: commercial (vet may be recommending special diet...grrr)
Method of monitoring: (at this point just urine testing
Other medical issues: none

We're still new to the whole process and will have lots of questions as we go along. She's still not regulated and the vet is getting rich! <grin>. Jazzy at some times could be a little spiteful dog so when she started peeing on the floor in the house that's what I thought it was. Then I thought MAYBE it could be a urinary tract infection. Tried meds for that, no improvement. Next thing was maybe she's just becoming an old lady and couldn't hold it anymore. It was when I realized she was eating like a hog and looked to be losing weight I had an inkling it was diabetes. I thought it might be cancer, but possibly diabetes so I took her to the vet and got diagnosed w diabetes. I never knew dogs could be diabetic. I wasn't sure I was up to the challenge but would give it a fair shot (no pun intended). For me giving the shots is the easy part. It's the glucose testing of her urine that has me the most frustrated. I get nervous when her level is 2000...I never thought it could go that high! I work with a great bunch of nurses who can answer SOME of my questions relating to diabetes in humans so they are an invaluable resource for me.
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:10 PM
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Welcome to the board! You'll find this community to be a huge help to you. Jazzy is adorable. by the way, I do not have my dog on a special diet. I regulated him around it.
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:42 PM
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Welcome!

You can do this. I was a total n00b 2 months ago when I agreed to foster Lucy. Now I'm home testing & injecting with no problem.

I have to confess that Lucy has made things very easy for me.

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Old 03-05-2009, 07:50 PM
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Hey Jazzy Welcome !

It will take time for the urine strip reading to come down, try and catch the 2nd pee of the am if possible before food, tho that can be hard with a crazy morning, or try it pre meal at night, if Jaz is not leaking urine or panting hard the insulin is working, it will take 5-7 days for that inital dose to start working and the vet will let you know about increasing the insulin if needed.

Like Peggy mentioned some of us do not use the vets rx foods, its just too expensive.

Once you start home testing the bg you will get a better picture of how Jaz is using her insulin, you will be able to tell her lowest point of the day, that can be anywhere from 2-5 hrs after injection, once you get comfortable with doing this when you have some time you can do a curve at home, this will help eliminate trips to the vet.

I think you will get the hang of this pretty quick plus you have some help at work.

Hang in there.
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:10 PM
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Jazzy's on a really small dose of insulin so far - does she sometimes come up with negative urine tests?

Has she had a curve at the vet?

What does her regulation look like so far?

(I always have questions!)

You could get a lot more information and save some money by learning to home test blood glucose - there are video and picture demos at www.k9diabetes.com/bgtestvideos.html.

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Old 03-06-2009, 04:54 AM
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Thanks for all the encouragement and welcomes. After testing her urine last night I fed her and took her to the vet for her curve (2nd one) today. Her urine tested at 2000 again and I asked the vet to check her blood. They said it was 236 or 256 so that made me feel better, but confused. Wondering why check her urine if it's SO high and her blood was ok. Putting that on my list of questions to ask the vet. Will post the results when I get them today.
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:57 AM
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Forgot a question for you guys/gals....Jazzy didn't want to eat last night until later. After she finally ate and in my rush to get her to the vet before they closed I forgot to put her vetsulin in the fridge. I found it this morning. Is it useless now? I need to purchase more? I'm thinking "yes", Thanks
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Old 03-06-2009, 10:37 AM
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The human insulins can be kept unrefrigerated although it reduces the shelf life, usually to about a month at a reasonable room temperature whereas it will last much much longer when refrigerated.

I suspect the same is true of Vetsulin but I just looked at their website for owners and this is what is said on the FAQ:
Can I still use a vial of Vetsulin if it was forgotten outside the refrigerator between doses?
Vetsulin should be stored upright, protected from light, between 2 and 8C. If the Vetsulin vial has been accidentally stored outside the refrigerator consult your veterinarian for advice on whether the Vetsulin can still be used or not. http://www.vetsulin.com/dog-owner/faq.aspx#v2
Seems silly for the manufacturer to defer to the vet.

Their website for vets says:
Storage
Store refrigerated at 36F to 46F. Protect from light. Store Vetsulin vials upright in the refrigerator to avoid crystallization around the stopper. Do not freeze insulin because this will denature the fragile insulin chains. Avoid high temperatures. http://www.vetsulin.com/vet/AboutVet...rHandling.aspx
You could get a backup bottle in case the next injection doesn't work well but I think a few hours at room temperature would not be a problem. As long as it's not exposed to very low or very high temps.
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Hi, anxious to hear the curve results.
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Welcome to you & Jazzy!

You'll learn things so quickly here...and when you forget or get confused, they will patiently explain it all to you again, lol. My dog, Bailey, was just diagnosed in January and I credit my understanding of this disease and his improvement to the members here. They walked me through the things I needed to know, which empowered me to ask the right questions and make sound decisions. You have definitely come to the right place.

You'll be surprised how fast this will become pretty routine for you & Jazzy. I thing the human part of the family has a tougher time with it then the furbabies. They catch on very fast that testing & injections ultimately lead to them feeling better. As far as my dog is concerned, tests & injections are just the precursor to a treat and/or a big snuggle.
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