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Old 06-11-2014, 08:12 PM
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The protein may be the problem. Before we found out that Little One had diabetes I was doing some research on mine. The latest thing called the insulin index. It suggests that some forms of proteins can have effect not on blood glucose but rather on insulin levels. Things were so much simpler when all you had to worry about was sugar.

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I think it partially depends on the type of carb source and how your individual dog reacts to it. Maggie is on Nutrisca and the company that makes it came out with a brand called Live Free. It is "super low glycemic" - her numbers were higher. I didn't analyze it to death but the only real difference I could tell was the protein was higher than Nutrisca, which you wouldn't think would affect bg but it did.

I think there is nothing wrong with trying to get them in a better range by trying new food but be prepared that the numbers may go up. It may take some trial and error to find one that works. It may take some extra testing as well.
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forbes was always on blue buffalo. i had to go from wilderness to weight control grain free. the protein hiked his numbers the grain free worked for him.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:01 PM
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When people start talking really high protein, ultra low carb diets for diabetics, I always feel the need to caution them to be prepared for those numbers to go up. I have noticed they tend to have really high fasting numbers. Too much up and down for me.
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Interesting comments on the high protein foods. One of the reason we switched to the Blue jerky treats is they are high protein, low carb. He gets less than a strip a day but has had more than usual as a reward after his eye drops. What a juggling act this is...
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:58 AM
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Treats might be different. In fact, with food or treats and each individual dog, one might get different results. Another reason home testing is great.
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When people start talking really high protein, ultra low carb diets for diabetics, I always feel the need to caution them to be prepared for those numbers to go up. I have noticed they tend to have really high fasting numbers. Too much up and down for me.
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forbes was always on blue buffalo. i had to go from wilderness to weight control grain free. the protein hiked his numbers the grain free worked for him.
Interesting. This may apply to Lily, who is still experiencing high fasting numbers, while the rest of the day is OK. She is being fed Blue Buffalo Wilderness Healthy Weight which is 30% protein. I'm gonna try Blue Buffalo Freedom Grain Free Healthy Weight at 20% protein and see if it makes a difference. This article also points to high protein diets not being so great for diabetic dogs ...

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=3060&

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Old 11-29-2014, 10:49 AM
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Default Freestyle Lite vs Freestyle Test Strips

Does anyone know the difference between these two? I previously used Freestyle Lite but not I accidently bought the regular Freestyle ones. Can I still use these with my AlphaTrak 2 and will they read the same as the Lite version? If not does anyone know the difference in readings between regular Freestyle and AlphaTrak 2 strips. I didn't even know there were different Freestyle strips just assumed they were the same. Also do you have to go exactly by expiration dates on the strips or can you go past the dates? Thanks!
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Does anyone know the difference between these two? I previously used Freestyle Lite but not I accidently bought the regular Freestyle ones. Can I still use these with my AlphaTrak 2 and will they read the same as the Lite version? If not does anyone know the difference in readings between regular Freestyle and AlphaTrak 2 strips. I didn't even know there were different Freestyle strips just assumed they were the same. Also do you have to go exactly by expiration dates on the strips or can you go past the dates? Thanks!
I don't THINK the "FreeStyle" test strips will work in the AlphaTrak meter. Have you tried to insert / use one? What happens? I've always used the "FreeStyle Lite" strips, currently coding the AlphaTrak-2 meter to "5" for the past several boxes of strips.

I doubt the test strips go bad the day after the expiration date. I've used true AlphaTrak strips 2-3 months after the expiry date and the read about the same as the next box of new strips. I probably wouldn't buy strips that were already past date, but if I had a box that had been sitting in my cupboard for several months I wouldn't worry about them. (I frequently buy four boxes at a time for a quantity discount, and the fourth box might not be used right away)

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Old 11-29-2014, 04:38 PM
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Craig do you code the AlphaTrak to 5 always or the code on the AlphaTrak bottle you are using to compare? My current AlphaTrak says 36 so should I use that number with the Freestyle lite strips? Also I haven't tried the Freestyle strips I just purchased but they look exactly the same as the Freestyle Lite ones. I will do a comparison between AlphaTrak and Freestyle and see what the difference is.
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:43 PM
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Craig do you code the AlphaTrak to 5 always or the code on the AlphaTrak bottle you are using to compare? My current AlphaTrak says 36 so should I use that number with the Freestyle lite strips? Also I haven't tried the Freestyle strips I just purchased but they look exactly the same as the Freestyle Lite ones. I will do a comparison between AlphaTrak and Freestyle and see what the difference is.
When using AlphaTrak strips, use the code on the container. You can try FreeStyle Lite strips on the same code, or experiment with other codes like the 5 I'm using.

When I experiment, I use the AlphaTrak Control Solution. First, I use an AlphaTrak strip with the Control Solution and jot down the reading. Then, I try FreeStyle Lite strips at different codes until I get a reading within about 5-7 points of the AlphaTrak strip. You just have to remember which strip you loaded into the meter, and code it accordingly. As I mentioned, "5" with FreeStyle Lite strips closely matches the AlphaTrak strips for me.

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