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Old 07-07-2014, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: New and I think I'm giving too much Vetsulin

No, the tech just said to start giving it every 24 hours. I think I'm going to call and ask to speak to the vet. Everywhere I read says it works better every 12 hours..
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:48 AM
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Sometimes when they say 17 per day, they don't tell you to split it into 2 doses. It needs to be split into 2 doses with 2 meals. You'll have to see if 17 is enough for a 75 pound dog. Forbin was around that weight and we needed to go up to 23 to get him regulated but did it very slowly. We started around 17 twice a day
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:44 AM
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It might help if you ask the vet/vet tech how they arrived at the starting dose. Sorry - I made a mistake in my previous post and have edited it. Here is what the vetsulin.com site recommends for starting dose:

"Starting dose
In dogs, the initial recommended Vetsulin dose is 0.5 IU insulin/kg of body weight. This dose should be given once daily concurrently with or right after a meal."

Further down the article addresses twice daily dosing:

"Twice-daily dosage

If the initial insulin duration of activity proves to be inadequate, begin twice-daily therapy. If twice-daily treatment is initiated, each of the 2 doses should be 25% less than the once-daily dose of Vetsulin required to attain an acceptable nadir.

For example, a 20-kg dog would receive 10 IU of Vetsulin once daily or 7 IU of Vetsulin administered twice daily. See product label for more information."


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http://www.vetsulin.com/vet/DosingOverview.aspx

Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

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Old 07-08-2014, 09:15 PM
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Make sure you have Corn Syrup handy wherever you go. It will save your pet from a seizure if you catch your pet staggering around or crawling for no reason and just acting out of it. Seeing your pet have a seizure will really break your heart.

Seeing my little girl have a seizure was really scarey and I hope I never have to see her go through that again. I had never seen her have one or was I warned it could happen.

I am very careful now and we still have not got her levels correct because she keeps getting healthier thanks to thyroid meds and she does not need as much insulin. I have to watch her like a hawk now till she gets completely healthy which is coming soon.

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Default Re: New and I think I'm giving too much Vetsulin

Hi Jennifer,

So my preferred starting dose is 1/5 of a unit of insulin per pound given twice a day, every 12 hours, with a meal. No more than 1/4 of a unit per pound - but that's can be too much for a lot of dogs.

In Kayla's case, at 74 pounds, 1/5 of a unit per pound would be 15 units - as Amy noted - and 1/4 of a unit per pound would be 18.5 units.

In both cases, that would bet given twice a day with a meal.

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I think you need to discuss the dose with the veterinarian - preferably iin person to review the entire plan for her. Because the vet tech does not appear to know the answer well enough not to have to think about it. Mistakes like this can be deadly...

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I absolutely think your dog should be on insulin injections twice a day.

Whether that should be 17 units twice a day or 8.5 units twice a day (total of 17 for the day) would depend on a few things...

- how high her blood sugar is and whether there were any ketones present?

- how long she's likely to have had diabetes prior to it being diagnosed.

Probably my ideal advice would be to start her on maybe 12-13 units of insulin twice a day and see how she does with that.

The more recently the diabetes came on, the more conservative I would be.

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HI there

My 12 yr old yellow lab Kayla (74lbs) was just diagnosed Thursday with Diabetes. They wanted me to come in right away to show me how to give her the insulin shots. The vet tech told me to give her 17units every 12 hours. Showed me how and all... and stressed that I had to do it close to every 12 hours. I have been doing so since Friday but I just happened to read the bottle in detail and it says 17units every 24 hours. I'm kind of freaking out because I think I'm giving her too much! I called the emergency vet and they said I should go with what the vet tech said and not what's on the bottle. I need advice for tomorrow as my vet isn't opened till Monday. Should I continue with this dosage or should I start cutting it in half every 12 hours? I'm very new to this and don't want to hurt my dog....

Thanks ahead of time..

Jennifer
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