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Old 10-12-2012, 08:45 PM
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Hi everyone,

This is my first time on here. I joined a few weeks ago but have been spending my time on K9Cushings.com. My dog Scoop has had diabetes for 2 years but was recenty diagnosed with Cushing's. Scoop's diabetes have been well controlled but now with the Cushing's the vet tells me it will be hard to control both. I was wondering if there are others on here who are dealing with both. If anyone has any helpful information they could pass along, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you in advance for any help.
Vicki-Scoop and Raleigh's mom
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:07 PM
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I wish I had advice for you on dealing with both but I'm only on the diabetes side of things. But I know there are folks who deal with both, and I'm sure they will join in.

Just wanted to welcome you!
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:12 PM
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Zoe-Thanks for the welcome. Much appreciated.
Vicki-Scoop and Raleigh's mom
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:33 AM
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a welcome to you from me and jesse no cushings here but jesse is epileptic and 2 diseases or more can be challenging for controlling blood sugar but not impossible many here do get creative to accomplish this

do you test blood sugar at home that would be a big plus if regulation is affected
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:40 AM
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Hi Vicki, my Jenny has/had both. I haven't been reading the cushings forum as much lately.

Jenny did require a lot more insulin until we got her cushings under control. She was 8 pounds at the time and got up to 7 units of NPH twice a day.

Once the cushings was under control she has been anywhere from 1.5 to 3 units

We treated Jenny with Lysodren, screwed up, and her cortisol is actually too low these days so she is not on any cushings meds right now. Her cortisol is slowly slowly slowly coming up so we are just monitoring. it.

It is doable. hang in there! Are you testing blood sugar at home?

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Old 10-13-2012, 10:25 AM
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A big welcome to a fellow Pug!

You'll find a lot of help in here.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:09 AM
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Hi and welcome from me too, Vicki

Franklin was dx'd with cushing's when he was 4. We did trilostane for a while, took a break and got the adrenal panel done by UTK. At that point he was on the very edge of normal for cortisol, but his hormones were elevated. He's been on melatonin and lignans since. Earlier this year cortisol was rising (not crazy high, and no really overt symptoms) and was put onto mitotane. At the week follow up appt was when diabetes was dx'd.
He's been off mitotane since that point while we concentrate on the diabetes.

This is a great place for information and experience, and the members are very friendly and helpful. Again, welcome.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:58 PM
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Hi everyone-Thank you for all the warm welcomes. Sorry I haven't responded sooner. I have been spending my time on the Cushing's site. I've been more concerned and overwhelmed with the Cushing's since that is new to me. Scoop has had diabetes for 2 years and things were just fine till this past July. Then everything just started going wrong. Infection in both ears and both eyes. Then Vestibular disease(he still has the head tilt). Lost weight, not typical of Cushing's but he did lose a lot of muscle. Excessive drinking, urinating, hunger. Had an ulcerated ear. Had a curve done on Aug. 30 to make sure the thirst, etc. wasn't his diabetes. The vet was happy with the curve. So finally got tested for Cushing's Sept 20. Started on Vetoryl Sept 27. These last three months have been just one thing after another for Scoop. Saturday he got checked for a big sore in his "underarm". Now I am starting to be more concerned about his diabetes as well. Scoop's vet went to a conference last week in Atlantic City. She spoke to an endocrinologist from California who has worked with many diabetic dogs who are on Vetoryl. The specialist recommened to Scoop's vet to cut his insulin in half. He is currently on 10 units 2x a day and he suggested he be on 5 units 2x a day. He said he is afraid of Scoop's blood sugar going too low. Will be giving Scoop 5 units starting Monday and he will have a spot BG and urine check on Wed. I hope the specialist knows what he is talking about but I guess he is worried about low sugar which is worse than high sugar? Sorry this is so long. Wanted to tell Scoop's story. Thank you again for the warm welcome and the info.

Vicki-Scoop and Raleigh's mom

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Old 10-15-2012, 12:23 AM
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Hi Vicki...welcome to you and Scoop! (And Raleigh too!) I'm also not a double diagnosis person so can't help you out too much with that. I have heard that the reduction in insulin is quite normal with treatment of cushings however. And yes, you are right...low is more dangerous than high in bg. Although high will eventually result in either ketoacidosis (which can kill) or all the horrible side effects which can also evenutally kill your dog, the hypo is what will hurt your dog right away. So it's definitely ok for the vet to be more cautious as you treat the cushings. It's great your vet got the chance to talk to the endo doc! Hope they can maintain the contact so you can benefit.

Again, welcome! Hugs!
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Hi Vicki! Welcome to you and Scoop. As I read your list of things that Scoop has been experiencing, it rang a bell with me. My Decker was diagnosed with hypothyroidism in June and I've been doing a lot of reading about it since. Ear infections, eye issues, vestibular disease and re-occurant sores are all signs of hypothyroidism. I don't know enough about cushings to know if they may be the reason your vet has tested for cushings or not. A hypothyroid dog would experience either weight gain or steady weight with a reduction of calories - so the weight loss would not fit. Just wondering if your vet has run a full thyroid panel on Scoop to rule out hypothyroidism? Holli

http://dogs.about.com/od/caninedisea...id-In-Dogs.htm

http://siriusdog.com/hypothyroid-dog-signs.htm
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