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Old 09-13-2009, 01:44 PM
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I don't know what the status is now but Evanger's was barred from producing pet food a few months ago.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0..._evangers.html

Natalie
Oh no... I had no idea. If this happened in June, how come my store is still getting shipments in 3 months later? If I had known this I obviously would not only not have recommended it, I certainly would not have fed it to my own dog.

Thanks for the tip, I've got 4 cans to take back to the store now.

Glad to hear Andy is doing so well.

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Old 09-13-2009, 02:41 PM
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http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=13179

Clostridium botulinum not detected, pet food maker says
June 17, 2009
By: Jennifer Fiala
For The VIN News Service


"Evanger's Dog & Cat Food Co. Inc. is appealing the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) June 12 suspension of its permit to ship canned pet food after safety inspections revealed that the company was not operating in compliance with the regulatory agency's requirements.

"In a statement, Evanger's Vice President Joel Sher says there have been no recalls or allegations of unsafe food manufactured at the company. In short, Clostridium botulinum has not been detected in Evanger's products, he contends.

"FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine, in cooperation with the agency's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, issued Evanger's suspension after inspections revealed that the Illinois-based company "deviated from the prescribed process, equipment, product shipment, and recordkeeping requirements in the production of the company's thermally processed low acid canned food products."

"Such "deviations" could result in under-processed foods, which can allow the survival and growth of Clostridium botulinum, an agency news release says.

"In light of that statement, company officials appear to be doing damage control, stating repeatedly that Evanger's products are free of Clostridium botulinum. Exactly what warranted FDA's action appears to be based on a misunderstanding regarding certain filings that deal with the company's processing protocols — paperwork that Evanger's is in the process of correcting, Sher's statement says.

"In its news release, FDA notes that the company must "document that corrective actions and processing procedures have been implemented to ensure that the finished product will not present a health hazard."

"According to the company, Evanger's conducts internal tests on all of its production batches, which can detect bacteria like Clostridium botulinum.

""There has never been any detection of any bacteria in any of our products," Sher reiterates in his statement. "As part of the FDA inspection, every can in our warehouse was inspected by the FDA for signs of bacterial contamination. The result: NO contamination was found.

""There are no recalls or safety issues associated with this situation," he adds. "All Evanger’s products that are currently on store shelves are safe as they always have been. ... As we have indicated, the FDA action does not call into question the safety of any of Evanger’s products.""

They were in trouble for the same thing a little before this:

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http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2008/NEW01825.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 24, 2008
Media Inquiries:
Kimberly Rawlings, 301-827-6242
Consumer Inquiries:
888-INFO-FDA

FDA Orders Pet Food Maker to Obtain Emergency Operating Permit

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an order requiring that Evanger's Dog & Cat Food Co., Inc., in Wheeling, Ill., obtain an emergency permit from the FDA before its canned pet food products enter interstate commerce.

A recent inspection revealed significant deviations from prescribed documentation of processes, equipment, and recordkeeping in the production of the company's thermally processed low acid canned food (LACF) products. These problems could result in under-processed pet foods, which can allow the survival and growth of Clostridium botulinum (C. botulinum), a bacterium that causes botulism in some animals as well as in humans.

"As outlined in the Food Protection Plan, the FDA uses a risk-based approach to locate the areas of greatest risk for foods, and targets preventive controls and inspections to those areas, " said Dr. Stephen Sundlof, director, Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. "The FDA's authority to issue an order requiring an emergency permit is an enforcement tool designed to prevent unsafe foods from reaching consumers.”

The FDA issues an "Order of Need for Emergency Permit” if the agency determines that a company fails to meet the regulatory requirements to process a product that does not present a health risk. For Evanger's to resume business, the company must document that corrective actions and processing procedures have been implemented to ensure that the finished product will not present a health hazard.

Botulism is a powerful toxin that affects the nervous system and can be fatal. The disease has been documented in dogs and cats. Signs of botulism in animals are progressive muscle paralysis, disturbed vision, difficulty in chewing and swallowing, and progressive weakness to the body. Death is usually due to paralysis of the heart or the muscles used in breathing.

In light of human botulism illnesses and recalls that occurred due to under-processed hot dog chili sauce, and potentially under-processed canned green beans, FDA has urged all LACF processors to review their operations and the apply scientific principals and regulations that have been established to provide a safe product.

While FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine has authority over animal feed and foods, CFSAN is responsible for regulating all human and animal LACF processing. The two centers are collaborating on this enforcement action.
Evanger's was allowed to keep operating then because FDA issued them an Emergency Permit (nothing shipped until FDA received reports on every batch re: negative for bacteria).

The understanding is that when it was necessary to issue that Emergency Permit, the violations found at their plant inspection were to be corrected. When the plant was re-inspected this year, there were still violations spotted by FDA inspection; this is when FDA pulled their Emergency Permit which allowed them to ship their products outside of IL.

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FDA Suspends Temporary Emergency Permit of Pet Food Maker
June 12, 2009

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced today it was suspending the temporary Emergency Permit issued to Evanger's Dog & Cat Food Co., Inc.

Evanger's, operating in Wheeling, Illinois, deviated from the prescribed process, equipment, product shipment, and recordkeeping requirements in the production of the company's thermally processed low acid canned food (LACF) products. The deviations in their processes and documentation could result in under-processed pet foods, which can allow the survival and growth of Clostridium botulinum (C. botulinum), a bacterium that causes botulism in some animals as well as in humans.

In April 2008, Evanger’s was issued an “Order of Need for Emergency Permit” after the agency determined that the company had failed to meet the regulatory requirements to process a product that does not present a health risk. In June, 2008, FDA issued Evanger’s a temporary Emergency Permit. During inspections conducted between March 2009 and April 2009, FDA determined Evanger’s was not operating in compliance with the mandatory requirements and conditions of the Temporary Emergency Permit.

“The FDA is stopping Evanger's ability to ship pet food in interstate commerce,” said Dr. Bernadette Dunham. “Today’s enforcement action sends a strong message to manufacturers of pet food that we will take whatever action necessary to keep unsafe products from reaching consumers.”

In order for Evanger's to resume shipping in interstate commerce, the company must document that corrective actions and processing procedures have been implemented to ensure that the finished product will not present a health hazard.

http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/manufacturers.htm

Evanger's also produces these brands for these companies:

Artemis Holistic Dog Food

Blackwood Pet Food

Canidae

Life4k9

More Evanger's Produced Brands

http://www.mastiffonlinecommunity.ne...ote=viewresult

Beowulf Natural Feeds, Syracuse NY – Back to Basics Perfection. Made by Evanger’s Dog and Cat Food Company, Wheeling IL. www.beowulfs.com

Weruva International Inc, Natick MA – Weruva Kobe and Kurobuta formulas only. Made by Evanger’s Dog and Cat Food Company, Wheeling IL. www.weruva.com

Basically, they currently cannot ship anything they can out of IL.

http://k9diabetes.com/forum/showpost...45&postcount=9

http://k9diabetes.com/forum/showpost...9&postcount=11

Above are our board links from April 2008, when the problems began and Evanger's was allowed to operate under the emergency permit.

Kathy
All of this means the company is entitled to a hearing to present their side of the issue. We'd heard that Evanger's was to do that--sometime in July, I believe. But there's been no official word as to whether or not they got their Emergency Permit restored as a result of the hearing.

Kathy
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Old 09-13-2009, 03:24 PM
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I took my cans back to the store and swapped them out for other food. I gave them a copy of the actual fda.gov information that I printed out. The owner wasn't there but one of the managers was. She said she hadn't heard anything about this and seemed very concerned and was more then happy to promptly refund my money.

I wonder why, in light of the circumstances, that Evanger wasn't forced to recall all of their canned goods, like Menu Foods was? It seems as if there was ample reason to do so. Please note, that's a rhetorical comment.

Thanks for your time, and if I have offended or annoyed anybody, it was unintentional.


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Old 09-13-2009, 03:44 PM
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The way the laws are and have been at this time, the only food item FDA can force a recall on is baby formula. There's hope that this will change if FDA is given more legal recall authority as has been discussed recently. All FDA has the power to do is to prevail on a company to recall other food products, no matter if they are for people or animals--except for the baby formula.

There were no confirmed reports of botulism being found in any of the Evanger's products; this is different from the 2007 Castleberry's recall, where botulism WAS detected in some of their canned foods.

It's sort of like the difference between a storm watch and a storm warning--storm watch means that conditions are right for storms to develop while storm warning means that there are storms and they are headed in a given direction.

The Evanger's situation is like a storm watch in that the FDA inspections turned up plant conditions where botulism could develop; Castleberry's had issues with their plant conditions and botulism did develop there, so that was the equivalent of a storm warning.

My personal disappointment with the company is that they've been "on the carpet" twice for the same flaws in just over a year. While ideally, we'd like to have seen that nothing was wrong back in April 2008--what I did expect, though, is that by June of 2009, those plant defects had long been corrected.

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Old 09-13-2009, 05:26 PM
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I printed the notice as well. I am going by the pet store to see if I can get them to pull it off the shelf.

If they won't, I will find somewhere else to shop. I just could not believe how the company responded to a customer. I may not be able to change the world but I can sure take a stand as a consumer and do this for Chris and his Pomeranians. It does not say if they lived. I hope they made it.

"In December 2008, Chris of Monrovia, Md., described what happened when she fed her two Pomeranians some Evanger's Beef Chunks in Gracy.

"Within 45 minutes they were both in critical condition with signs of complete neurological shutdown, blindness, inability to stand or walk, difficulty breathing and swallowing," she said. "Both dogs were treated for symptoms of botulism and the food was to be sent out for testing through Greenbriar Emergency Hospital."

And how did Evanger's react to the near-disaster?

"When I called the office number listed on Evanger's Web site on November 19th, I was hung up on. When Dr. Rossi called Evanger's on November 20th, she was told by the person who answered that they would not speak another word to her because she could not prove she even was a vet," Chris said."
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:32 PM
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Snow you did not know. I am not sure we can keep up anymore it is so bad.

Gosh I went out to their website and watched the video. They make themselves sound like they only use the same high quality food that local restaurants use.

I believed them too!
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Old 09-13-2009, 09:29 PM
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Snow... you absolutely have not offended anyone!

I posted the information because I knew that you too would want to know the concern was out there so you could make a decision about it in the future with Devon.

Frankly, I wouldn't have known anything about it either - Kathy is the eagle eye when it comes to pet food warnings and she alerted us to this. I have bought a few cans of Evangers myself in past years.

My cats were eating foods recalled during the Menu Foods fiasco - fortunately, they did not suffer any ill effects.

What's worse, a food that is great one year can switch manufacturers without our even knowing it. Or change formulations. And become something we don't want to feed.

I think this is partly why I feed Jack a handful of different foods mixed together! At least that way if one of them goes south it won't have been his whole diet. I'm just not up to home cooking so rely on prepared foods and it's kind of a crap shoot trying to figure out what's safe. Very sad.

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If all of us knew everything there was to know about everything... there would never be a need for a forum! That's the great thing about places like this - all the extra information and experience you gain. Kathy is very knowledgeable about pet food issues and we benefit from that expertise.

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Well said Natalie!!!! Thank goodness there are those that understand much of what I don't. So glad you discovered Andy's problems! What a godsend that test was for you.
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Thought I would post an update on Andy.

October was a roller coaster ride with Andy. He was doing so well after we had his allergies tested and changed his diet to foods he is not allergic to. But of course Andy still has allergies. One of the ways that Andy manifests his allergies is interdigital furnicles.
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/in...m/bc/70800.htm

Almost a year to the date he developed one and then another on both his back feet. This time I knew exactly what to do. I even had medicine left over from last year. So we treated him and both cysts are gone. While this was going on his BG was elevated so we increased his insulin slightly.

Once the feet cleared and it seemed we would be back to normal Andy started rebounding. I verified this by testing him at exactly one hour after his insulin. He would drop severely the first hour, always over 100 points. The morning he dropped from almost 400 to 150 in an hour I knew what was wrong. I did not know what to do about it.

We would get past one episode of rebound only to have another no matter what I fed him. Andy apparently still has rapid insulin metabolism. Once all the food and things he is allergic to left his body the rebounding became the issue we still needed to deal with.

So Margo told me to try waiting 15 mins to inject insulin after his meal and give 1/2 teaspoon of honey. It worked beautifully! He stopped rebounding and his numbers went back to normal. He is around 200 at fasting and between 100 and 200 most of the day. Amazing what a little change can make. I tried just waiting to inject without using the honey and nope, the honey is absolutely needed. I set the timer for 20 mins as soon as I put his bowl down so there is a solid 15 mins before injection. The timer goes off and we are ready!

He is eating Natural Balance Fish and Sweet Potato, brown rice, green beans and a fiber supplement. He loves it and is doing very well on this food.
So no matter how well regulated your dog is, stuff happens. We never stop learning.

Hugs to all your furbabies!
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