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Old 12-18-2019, 03:52 AM
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Well how do we explain then the fact that many pet owners are now switching over to raw diet, and claim that it has healed their pet and works best for them? A raw diet is mostly meat. Technically if dogs should be following a diet that they ate in the wild, then they wouldn't have access to things that we're feeding them today.

I don't know, i'm genuinely confused because I was under the impression that low carb and high protein is what's recommended for diabetic dogs.
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:56 AM
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What are you guys doing regarding dental hygiene? My Daisy is 8 years old now and has a moderate amount of tartar buildup on her back teeth. I tried brushing but that didn't go over well, nor will it do much at this point. What's safe and effective to use for diabetic dogs? I don't want to put her under for any kind of dental cleaning unless things get really bad where she needs teeth pulled. We're not at that point.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:32 AM
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Oratene from Zymox is a good product . Its a gel you rub on the teeth and gums .You are not required to brush
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:37 AM
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I started jesse on a raw diet and did it for sometime which was a mistake for diabetic jesse . Big swings in sugar . Not so good stools . What we have seen on the forum is a balanced diet with carbs works best with blood sugar and thats the goal to have the best stable blood sugar that can be attained

I dont think you can compare wolves to dogs . First off wolves maybe last 6 to 8 years at best . They do try to get balance in the wild besides meat protein

I do feel a balanced homemade diet is superior to a commercial processed diet even though it is frond upon by the professionals but thats my opinion and what I have seen with jesse
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:42 AM
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I think many people switching to raw aren't diabetic dog owners. In my opinion, it's a trend propagated by marketing. And when you say healed, healed what condition?

I have a different opinion on the whole raw thing. Animals ate raw meat in the wild because that's all they had access to. It doesn't mean that fruits and veggies are not good for them. They didn't have easy access to that. You eat what you can get.
And domestic dogs are not the same as wild dogs or canines I believe. The progression of breeding habits and and genetic mixing has created a different animal.
Cavemen ate mainly meat too, it's mostly what they could get. But now humans have access to lots of other natural foods that we know are good for us.

Lots of information out there but as we know a lot can be not credible. I've never had my endocrinologist tell me that high protein low carb is best for diabetics (dogs, humans or otherwise)but the science says a balanced diet is usually better. And I think most of the people on here would concur. The people on here have gobs of experience, which can't be dismissed. I think experience is hard to beat when learning about anything.

https://www.aaha.org/globalassets/02...ines_final.pdf

The link above is a good basic resource. They indicate fiber is important, and most fiber comes from veggies/fruits/beans/grains (good grains).
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:49 AM
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Dechra is also a top brand. Link below. Your vet can order these.
I use the wipes (when he lets me.) And the spray on our chihuahua, who has bad dental issues.

https://www.dechra-us.com/therapy-ar...ental/products
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Old 12-20-2019, 02:38 AM
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Dechra is also a top brand. Link below. Your vet can order these.
I use the wipes (when he lets me.) And the spray on our chihuahua, who has bad dental issues.

https://www.dechra-us.com/therapy-ar...ental/products
Have you noticed a difference?
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Oratene from Zymox is a good product . Its a gel you rub on the teeth and gums .You are not required to brush
does it help clean teeth or its more of an anti-inflammatory for the gums?
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:22 AM
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Most of these products work to get rid of the bacteria, that can cause gum issues.

A dog dental specialist here in Toronto said that they won't necessarily clean, it's the brushing action that helps clean. So if you don't use a brush, not much cleaning will happen. But fighting bacteria is a good thing.
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Old 01-03-2020, 05:18 PM
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Hi again, I decided to take Daisy in to see a specialist to develop a plan for her since she may also have a concurrent Cushing's. Just wondering if anyone took their pet to a specialist before, and what are the questions I should ask? I want to get everything out of this appointment and not miss anything, as I won't be able to take her back in for a long time (having a baby end of Jan). So I'm hoping that things can somewhat get clarified for me on her Diabetes management as well as Cushing's.

Also, somewhat unrelated, but has anyone experienced their pet with a foul breath? This week we took Daisy on a long road trip, and she was barking up a storm. When she barked she would fill the car with a very unpleasant smell, sewage like is the best I can describe it. We haven't really smelled that before, and it seems like it came from her insides bc of her barking, not from her teeth. From a quick google search it said that diabetes or liver issues can cause that sort of smell. Has anyone experienced it? Any thoughts?
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