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Old 03-19-2011, 05:47 AM
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Hi Jamie, sorry to keep bothering you, but I just have a couple of more questions.

I also use the AlphaTrak meter and the reading you get should be pretty accurate. Since your vet sold it to you, have you ever been able to compare the readings from your AlphaTrak with the results from a blood test at the vet's office? When they test at the vet's office, do you know if they were drawing blood from a vein and testing on their blood analyzer, or were they getting a drop of blood and testing with their AlphaTrak?

What are you using to stick Mickey to get the blood? If it's one of the automatic lancers, some of them have fine, thin lancets that may make it more difficult to get a blood sample from a site like a pad, or even the ear. Even with the lancet device set at the deepest setting, I often have had trouble getting blood from a thick spot like a pad or callous. Bailey has a small callous on one elbow that I use, but I have found that just doing it by hand, using one of the lancets that you load in the device works better. I also get the 26 gauge lancets that are the largest lancets I can find. I get the Relion lancets at Wal-Mart since that's the only place I can find the 26 gauge. I get the 28 gauge if I can't find the 26. Doing it by hand with the larger diameter lancet lets me get deeper and makes a slightly larger diameter hole. Usually one stick is all it takes, but sometimes if I'm having trouble getting blood, I can do 2 quick stabs and he never notices the difference.

Good luck and let us know how the testing goes this evening.

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Old 03-19-2011, 06:32 AM
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Mikayla: When you increased Sasha's food, and left the insulin where it was, did it affect Sasha's glucose? So cute about the lettuce - Mickey loves lettuce too. His after shot treat though is a greenbean. Mickey, Jasmine and Maggie all love their greenbeans.
Sasha has only had the food increase since her evening meal on Wednesday.
We are seeing no noticeable difference in BG, at least not yet.

Isn't it funny about green beans!? I would have never thought they would someday
be a treat for my dog...
Sasha's after shot treats are also green beans and lettuce. We have the shot,
she turns around and sits up, waiting for the goodies.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:22 AM
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Pat: We've tried initially to use our Alpha Trac, but because of the difficulty getting any blood from the paws or the ears (and can't do the mouth because he will bite), we stopped and resigned ourselves to bringing Mickey to the Vet once a week until the Vet felt comfortable to once a month with me checking for ketones. The high registering of glucose was a new development for him within the past two weeks, as he never showed anything on it before. At the Vet's, I'm pretty sure they use his vein to get their blood readings and they use the Alpha Trac too. This afternoon we will try again to use ours and this time will use the base of the tail. Excellent suggestions about the lancet sizes. Ours are 28 gauge, I'll look into getting a 26 gauge. We took him to the groomers yesterday afternoon and they shaved a nice square at the base of his tail, and I've double checked the Alpha Trac with the control solution to make sure it's working right, and now we are all set to go. We plan on doing it at noon today. We hoped to do it yesterday but he was a little stressed after coming back from the groomers, so we left him alone.

Mikayla - It really amazes me that he barks when it's time for his shots. Too cute. Another treat we give them and they really like is cut up green pepper. We wash, clean out the seeds and cut into strips, and then cut those in half.

Also, and I'm not sure if I can give the website for this - if I can, someone please chime in and I'll be very happy to give it. I got Mickey a really well made tag (it's metal, but not heavy) that has a white background and the medical symbol on the front and it says "I have Diabetes" (in case he ever got out of the house inadvertently or lost....). On the back of the tag, I have his full name, our phone number, the Vet's phone number, and the words "micro-chipped". I'm not affiliated with this company, I found it by googling. The Vet's office loved it.
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Old 03-20-2011, 05:00 AM
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Jamie,

Please feel free to post the site for the tag. I've looked before and couldn't find anything I liked, so I'd like to take a look. I'm sure there are others who would like to check it out also.

The 28 gauge will probably work fine where you're going to be testing at the base of his tail, so try those first. I like the lancet device I have, but it doesn't go as deep as I can by hand and it's getting harder for me to get blood from the callous I was using so I think he's probably building up scar tissue. It may not be as important at the spot you're going to use at the base of his tail, but it helps on the thicker areas like the carpal pad and a callous. It's also often easier to do it by hand if you're using an ear or the lip since using a device is sometimes harder to get in those areas. I also like that I don't have to stop and re-cock the device if I need to do another stick.

Good luck and let us know how the test at his new site goes.

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Old 03-20-2011, 06:09 AM
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Jamie,
Good luck with the testing today!

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Please feel free to post the site for the tag. I've looked before and couldn't find anything I liked, so I'd like to take a look. I'm sure there are others who would like to check it out also.
We had a thread at one time on some sites people had used for tags but I can't seem to find it in a search right now.

Feel free to post yours. This is the one I chose for Ali. I wanted something large that would stand out since she's a larger dog.
http://goodsforgiving.com/t-diabetic...ification.html
I had the front customized to say:
Diabetic
Needs Insulin
Urgent Call
Then my cell, home #, and address on the back.

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Old 03-20-2011, 06:49 AM
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Re; tag,

I engraved Mil's at a Petco that has the self service tag engraving equipment.

Her's states,

Diabetic
must have insulin 2x daily
vet's phone #

When she had cataracts it also stated that she was blind.

Her second tag has my info, address and phone number.

Many people do not know what diabetes is so I think it is important to not only say the pet is diabetic but that they must have insulin.
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:46 AM
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I'm going to be testing Mickey at around 12:00 pm or so

In the meantime, the place I got his tag was at the following website address:

www.DogTagArt.com.
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:51 AM
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OK - I can see that this will work, when I'm actually able to do it right. My husband held him with Mickey's treat - and he was very good. The problem again, was that I couldn't get any blood, just a really teeny tiny amount and it wouldn't register. I tried 4 times - and Mickey was so good, but we stopped. I was using a 28 gauge lancet, so I ran out and got a box of 26 gauge lancets (CVS brand - I hope those are ok). The alternative to this is my Soft Clix device set at a higher number to see if that works. We plan on trying this again a little after 2:00 pm. I am determined to be able to do this.

Maybe my technique is wrong. I took some skin and softly pinched up a little between my index finger and thumb and pricked the elevated skin. Should I not do that and try to use the lancing device flat against his skin without picking up any?

Thanx!
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:53 AM
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I would use the lancing device flat vs pinching up the skin. With pinchng, you might be pushing all the blood out of that area (?). Also, increasing the setting to a higher number. We use the one touch ultra lancing device set to #4.

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Old 03-20-2011, 10:25 AM
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We use the Soft Clix lancing device and at first had to set it at the highest
place to get blood...placed flat against her skin (we use inside of lip)
After a couple days, we found "the spot" where we can get blood more easily,
and with the first jab almost every time. And we have reduced the setting number.

The one time I tried with a lancet alone, Sasha yipped and jumped, so I will not
do that again with her.

Good for you! Soon you will learn what method works best for you.
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