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Old 04-10-2011, 09:09 AM
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She is laying down now.. breathing faster then usual..I was lying by her.. maybe she is just tired.. I can't tell if she is listless..I need to get a meter.. ASAP..Thank you for your help...I am by myself and am very appreciative of all your suggestions!
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:16 AM
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The Vet bill would be over 100.00.. I just spent 130 on Thursday..I figure the test tomorrow will be around 80.00 taking her to another more expensive Vet this week.. probably will be over 200.00..and buying the meter and the strips..I just don't have the funds.. Trying to get her thru today..SHOULD I FEED HER TONIGHT AT 7?????I don't know.. Trying to ride this out..If she gets worse I will take her in.. just hope she will feel better soon....
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:22 AM
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Do you have any Keto-Diastix in the house? It's not an optimum test - it's testing by urine instead of blood (you will want to learn to home test by glucose monitor), but it will tell you if she's high (because if she's low, glucose won't show on the stix - the problem is that it doesn't tell you how low). It will also tell you if she has ketones - and that's an emergency.

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Old 04-10-2011, 09:28 AM
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If I would have known more about this I would have been more prepared..She was just diagnosed late Thursday afternoon. I had to go to the pharmacy here and buy her insulin and that was 65.00.. I don't even know what keotones are????
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:34 AM
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She is starting to look more perky!!!!I gave her the shot at 7...the last few days after the shot she was just fine...Should I feed her tonight?????I don't give her another shot til 7 in the morning....And what kind of meter should I get?? And where do I buy one?????Alot of questions.....Hattie is up and chewing a bone so maybe this episode is over.. Sorry for bothering you all.. I just don't know the signs of highs and lows of this mess....And when to give her the Karo syrup.. I don't want to harm her giving it to her...what would happen if I gave it to her and she was in the wrong mode..high or low????????
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:51 AM
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Ketones in the urine are made when the body breaks down fat for energy. They're not getting the sugar they need for their energy. Normally carbs in the diet is used for energy but when the diet doesn't have sufficient carbs, ie brown rice, potatoes etc, it uses the stored fat. They are definately an emergency!!!!

Unfortunately this new way of life is VERY expensive at the beginning.

What really bothers me is her labored breathing....Is she still doing it? How long has it gone on for? If she is, you may want to bite the bullit and take her in....I know it's hard on the finances believe me!!

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Old 04-10-2011, 09:57 AM
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Thanks.. Her breathing seems better...and in fact she wanted her rawhide and before she didn't touch it. makes me think she is better. I am afraid to feed her tonight...I don't know if I should???? she doesn't get anymore insulin til tomorrow at 7.a.m
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:25 AM
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I am glad she is looking better. Believe me, you not being a bother. Unfortunately, I was there once too and I know how scary it all can be. IT DOES GET BETTER! You are very new to all of this and things will calm down. It is just part of our routine now.

As far as feeding her tonight goes, I'm hoping Natalie or Patty will chime in before then. I've been doing this a while with Lily, but just don't feel qualified enough to answer that for you. We really don't know if she was dealing with a high or low. The signs are hard to read with Lily and many other dogs. I wouldn't know unless I was able to test her. I just know she is acting off and I'm never quite sure what I'll find when I test although for us it is usually a low.

I am quite concerned that your vet is having you give one shot a day. To me that is a warning sign that he doesn't know a lot about diabetes. Two shots are required with NPH. I had bad advice from a vet in the beginning also. He was a great surgeon and wonderful the previous 10 years we knew him with my other dogs, but he knew squat about diabetes. I interviewed a number of vets in my area and found one that we are now very happy with. She encouraged home testing, knew to give shots 2x a day, start with a small dose and work our way up, open to high protein diets, etc.

If you can run to the pharmacy, do go get some Keto-Diastix strips. They aren't that expensive and would be a clue to her running high or low. I'd tell you to get a meter also, but sometimes it takes a while to get the hang of all of that. If you are up for it, go for it though. I think Natalie suggests the OneTouch Ultra. Check out the videos Natalie has posted to get an idea on how to begin. http://www.k9diabetes.com/monitoring.html
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:35 AM
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Thanks for the information... I really have to know if I should feed her tonight???It is bothering me...As for the Vet...she is a country Vet here... I took Hattie there because it was 1 mile from the house and I could get in right away.. I am going this week to a Vet that I usually take my dogs to.. The good thing about them is they have emergency services there .. so that is important with Hattie's situation. I think the amount of insulin is too low, but then she might have wanted to start her low to see how things go...I know she won't eat the prescription canned food.. and they have to eat before the shot.. so I don't know what to do with that.. I wish she would eat the canned food it sure would be easier to monitor!
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:44 AM
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I think the amount of insulin is too low, but then she might have wanted to start her low to see how things go
Just to give you an idea - my Lily weighs 45.5lbs. She get 6 units of insulin two times a day. Now she gets less than another dog her weight would get, but you just really can never tell. Ten units would be way too much for her and she weighs a good bit more than Hattie.

If the insulin dose was too low, then you were dealing with a high today. If the insulin was too high, then a low.

You have until 7 to decide whether or not to feed her. Just chill a bit and see if anyone else chimes in. lf you run out and get some keto strips, the decision will be a lot easier.
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