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Old 10-15-2021, 05:36 PM
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Cataracts are fairly common in diabetic dogs

You can throw the kitchen sink at it which is what i did some 11 years ago . I was Jesses pancreas . I was getting maybe 4 hours sleep doing mostly reactionary tools to control sugar until I could figure something that would be less obtrusive It had risk to it

I did figure out what would work just feeding her one meal a day which is still considered well out in left field but worked very well for her
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Jesse-26 lbs - 16.5 years old ,11 years diabetic, one meal a day homemade and a vitabone snack . 3 shots of Novolin( under the Relion name ) a day . Total insulin for a 24 hour period is 6.5 units of NPH insulin .
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Old 10-16-2021, 11:25 AM
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another alternative which alot of people do is get a food weigh tray at walmart or coscos. start cooking home made meals. theres a food calculator online. put in his ideal weightt, weigh each individual ingredient. heres a calculator fyi.

https://www.dognutrition.com/dog-food-calculator/
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Have you done some curves to get a detailed, hour by hour view of his BG?

"Mountain" curves are fairly common. And there are ways to flatten them out by varying the diet and the timing of the insulin injection.

Mountain curves suggest the food is being digested rather slowly. Replacing some of it with something carby and quickly digestible can help by providing blood sugar early on when the insulin is starting to work and less sugar later in the day.

10 units for 18 pounds is pretty normal. I'd say the average dose is 0.25 to 0.50 units per pound and you're just about 0.50. I've seen some terriers who weighed 20-25 pounds and needed 21-23 units of insulin. No idea why - they just needed more than average. They lived long healthy happy lives with good regulation.

Dogs aren't considered insulin resistant until they are getting 1.0 units per pound and still have high blood sugar (too high, 300s, 400s).

Allergies tend to raise blood sugar and thus require relatively larger doses of insulin. They can also create a fair amount of variability in blood sugar because they have such a direct effect on it.

When you think about it, it's amazing how much regulation we manage to achieve with a couple of insulin injections and meals a day. The blood sugar regulation system is affected by just about everything - food content, digestion, absorption of insulin, allergies, inflammation, exercise, even temperature. Fortunately, dogs don't have to have perfect blood sugar to live long healthy happy lives. They are much more tolerant of high blood sugar than humans.

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Hello. I have a 12 yr old Coton. 18 lbs. Diagnosed April16, 2021. Started on 3 units Vetsulin twice daily, but quickly switched to Novolin N. He is up to 10.5 units now of Novolin N which seems like a lot to me for an 18 lb dog. I have been careful to go slowly always running a curve before increasing no more than .5 units at a time. It seems every time we increase he seems to do better for just a few days and then ends up back where we were. His morning and evening fastings run between about 250 to 350. Mornings are the lowest. But his mid day numbers are almost always high - upper 300's to low 400's. For instance, this morning at 7:00 am he was 268 which made me happy, but by 11:00 he was 455. He will usually gradually come down over the afternoon. Maybe to 350 or so by 2:30 and then finally down to around 300 by evening fasting. Honestly his morning and evening fastings are not much different now than they were when we were on 7 units. He eats 100 grams of Royal Canin GI lowfat canned food plus 37 grams of NB Venison and Sweet Potato and a few green beans twice daily. I've actually been wondering if we should go back to Vetsulin because it has the fast acting component to it. It just seems like his food gets out ahead of the insulin and then the insulin never quite catches up. I give the insulin within 10 minutes after eating.
Any and all suggestions would be welcome. Thank you
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