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Old 12-04-2021, 06:22 PM
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I decided to give him half of his breakfast with half of his insulin for that meal. It's about 4h early compared to recent breakfasts so I pray I've done the right thing.
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Old 12-04-2021, 06:37 PM
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why would you change things

why feed half of his breakfast?

why feeding 4 hours early?

is he sick?

no dont give extra insulin without a 7 day curve
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Old 12-04-2021, 06:52 PM
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Because every night his glucose has gone over 500 and I'm getting worried that it's causing him damage. I saw his curve starting to climb rapidly again for no obvious reason and thought "it's going to hit over 500 again". I wanted to get it down and didn't want to risk giving him insulin without food so I opted for half-food, half-insulin, albeit four hours early. His diabetes is clearly not under control and I'm just trying to do what I can.
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Old 12-05-2021, 10:43 AM
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please stick to a routine of feeding and insulin every 12 hours! very important.

please dont rely entirely on the sensor, double check with the handheld!

please dont chase numbers.

stick to one food, same everything for 7 days do a curve or go to the vet get one done
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Old 12-05-2021, 03:36 PM
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My Jesse had big swings in sugar and what I theorized is she could only accept so much insulin if I went over that she would spike up . You can't expect change to happen on demand . If your dog is rebounding because of to much insulin and if it's gone on for sometime it's going to take time for the body to calm down and not react . Finding that right combination can be challenging .

I actually switched Jesse to one meal a day to remove the food equation for half the day in the hopes to see if food was responsible for spikes .the interesting thing it improved her blood sugar without food and also improved her period of meal and insulin . So an experiment turned into a long term routine with one meal . The only change was giving her a dog biscuit snack with that no meal dose which helped to improve her blood sugar stability .

The good thing Is you know insulin works . That's half the battle . Now it's just flattening out the curve and reduce those big swings . As mo said it was takes time and a repeatable routine of 5 to 7 days and sometimes up to 2 weeks to get an answer .Like I said you can't expect things to change on demand

Managing my Jesse's diabetes was more of an art and feel and less about science . In the end looking back it all makes sense now but when we were in the trenches I just wanted to pull my hear out

How is your dog doing physically ?
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Old 03-09-2022, 05:53 PM
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Well, it seems I have bigger problems than his diabetes now. Since I last posted, we've struggled to keep his blood glucose under control. I've tried all sorts, food changes, insulin changes... nothing seems to work very well.

The past few days he's lost his appetite and started vomiting up any water he drinks. We took him to the vet who did some blood tests and told us that one of his liver readings which are normally 30-50 are 15,000 !!! The vet had him in today to do a liver function test and some tests for pancreatitis. We'll have to wait a day or two for those results.

I've been in pieces - I'm expecting him to not make it through this. I recently started a new job and ended up having to leave early because I started crying.... not ideal for a 57 year old man.

He's my baby. We have no human children and he's the only dog I've ever had, so naturally he's become like my own child.
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Old 03-09-2022, 11:50 PM
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Aw... I'm so sorry.

I understand... we just lost our dog (not diabetic) to cancer after he lost the use of his back end from a mass impinging on the spinal cord. Developed quickly and went downhill very fast. He was nearly 15 but still... we had really hoped to have him with us longer.

I hope that your sweet pup can pull through this - am beaming good wishes to you both and sending you a virtual hug. Fingers crossed it can be treated and he can recover.

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Old 03-10-2022, 10:08 AM
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hoping for a good outcome for Pugsley.

its hard waiting for results.

you.ll be okay, stay strong for Pugsley
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Old 03-10-2022, 02:33 PM
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It sounds like pancreatitis . That was part of my Jesse's original diagnosis with diabeties and DKA

The only thing that worked for my Jesse's was one meal a day with a full dose of insulin and milk bone snack with a reduce dose which was about a third of the full dose . Why it worked I felt is less time digesting food which helped with blood sugar and digestive issues like pancreatitis.
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Old 03-20-2022, 09:49 AM
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Well, it was pancreatitis and secondary bile duct obstruction. After I posted last, he started to go jaundiced. He had to go to a hospital 112 miles away and stay for a week. He's back home now. The jaundice and vomiting has gone - his liver enzymes are still very high though. He's lost a lot of weight - down from 20 pounds to about 15. He is licking air a lot more than he used to, and - he is ravenously hungry all the time. It's ridiculous... he is constantly fighting to get to the food cupboard and I have to confess I've given in to him twice today as I can't cope with the endless barking. I know that's not good for a dog recovering from pancreatitis but I just can't cope. I don't know what else to do.

As nobody will insure him, the bill came out of our savings - 4,500 (US$ 6000 / 7500 CDN).

I have spent the entire day today trying to get him to settle - long walks to wear him out.... he seems to have endless energy and unbounded determination to bark constantly for food every minute he's awake.

It seems like the best feeding regime for his health is the complete opposite end of what he continually demands.

I'm vaping to excess, drinking too much and the stress is going to put me in my grave if I'm not careful.

I love him dearly but this is what I imagine it must be like having a hyperactive disabled child.

What can I do ???? I just want him to be well, and not push me to the brink every day with his antics.
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