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Old 08-09-2009, 09:42 AM
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I am in awe of your persistence Bob. You are so dedicated to those two little guys. I still think they just like to see what you can come up with!

You could certainly try a little Ensure - maybe check with the vet before giving more than a small amount. I think a lot of raw milk could be a problem but things like cottage cheese are okay in terms of Dairy so I suspect the Ensure might be okay. Just stay away from chocolat flavors.

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Old 08-09-2009, 11:04 AM
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get the diabetic kind. there is a ton of sugar in the regular.
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I am in awe of your persistence Bob. You are so dedicated to those two little guys. I still think they just like to see what you can come up with!
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What she said. Your boys are very lucky to have such a Pit Bull for a human.

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Old 08-09-2009, 12:29 PM
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And now a "commercial" to warn everyone when buying sugar-free products, to be certain the sugar substitute isn't Xylitol, which can be fatal to dogs:

http://petdiabetes.wikia.com/wiki/Su...ducts_Warnings

http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/oct06/061001b_pf.asp

JAVMA News October 1, 2006

"The Animal Poison Control Center of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals has managed a substantially increased number of cases involving xylitol poisoning in dogs. Found in sugar-free chewing gum, candy, and baked goods, xylitol is a sweetener that can cause serious and sometimes life-threatening problems for pets.

"While it was previously thought that only large concentrations of xylitol could cause problems in dogs, lesser amounts of the sweetener may also be harmful, the center reported.

"Our concern used to be mainly with products that contain xylitol as one of the first ingredients," said Dr. Eric Dunayer, who specializes in toxicology at the center. "However, we have begun to see problems developing from ingestions of products with lesser amounts of this sweetener." Dr. Dunayer said that with smaller concentrations of xylitol, the onset of clinical signs could be delayed as much as 12 hours after ingestion.

"According to Dr. Dunayer, dogs ingesting substantial amounts of items sweetened with xylitol could develop a sudden drop in blood sugar, resulting in depression, loss of coordination, and seizures. "These signs can develop quite rapidly, at times less than 30 minutes after ingestion of the product. Therefore, it is crucial that pet owners seek veterinary treatment immediately," Dr. Dunayer said. He also said that there appears to be a strong link between xylitol ingestions and the development of liver failure in dogs."

For me, if it has xylitol in it, it doesn't come in the house; my way of making sure there can be no accidents with Toodles getting into something.

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Old 08-09-2009, 04:49 PM
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That is amazing! The odd thing is that I chew xylitol gum after every meal, not the wimpy small dose of xylitol in most gum, but the high concentration variety that you have to buy at special outlets. [no cavities in 15 years]

Dogs aside, it's touted as perhaps the best cavity reduction product ever created. When sugary stuff in your mouth mixes with bacteria [or how ever it works] a chemical process begins at the gum line next to the teeth.

For some reason, xylitol neutralizes that chemical process to prevent the eventual tooth enamal decay.

This is by no means an endorsement of the stuff, but because of it's cavity reduction properties, we can expect to see more and more of this stuff.

I am going to read labels more carefully, but it would be easy for some well meaning pet owner to drop a dangerous treat on the floor.

Good advice, many thanks

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Old 08-13-2009, 08:47 PM
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Every time I have good news, Mik and Mak apparently read this thread and go on strike. But for the moment [crossing fingers] they have both eaten better every day all week than in months.

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I won't tell a soul... (glad you're having a good week!)

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alleluiah!
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You need to paw proof the internet access for Mik and Mak. Parental controls?
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Hi there,

I was just thinking about the Ensure, what about Slim Fast in a can I don't think that has artifical sweetners in it, I drink the Slim Fast or Ensure when I don't feel like eating when its so hot outside, that might have powdered milk in it tho, any luck with cereal the hot kind or something like cheerios but I think you've already tried cereals.

Or try Silk soy milk the vanilla, or the goats milk you get in a can?
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