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Old 12-17-2010, 10:38 PM
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What a handsome boy!

And I'm sorry to laugh cuz I know right now nothing seems very funny but... a bread addict!! I suppose there are worse things a labrador could be fixated on!

At 19 units, it's still not a huge dose of insulin for his size so there is plenty of room for his dose to increase and you may not see much effect until it gets a bit higher. Perhaps, since there has been suspicions of Cushing's, he might be a little Cushinoid and therefore need a greater than average amount of insulin per dose.

In terms of his diabetes, the problem with four meals a day is you give insulin for four meals in the daytime but not at night, which can make it difficult to dose the insulin.

If you're a brave soul, what you could do is feed four meals a day 6 hours apart. Our dog was on insulin for times a day so he got a meal and an injection every 6 hours. It's a grind, no question, but we did it for three and a half years thanks to the fact that I'm very good at going back to sleep in the morning. That way, his day time and night time rituals and food distribution would be the same. We did 4am, 10am, 4pm, and 10pm, which generally allowed us to still have a life.

I suspect Labrador suffer more than most from a restrictive food regimen...

How are his other issues that have been dicating the diets he's been on?

Perhaps he could go back to Blue Buffalo.

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Old 12-23-2010, 01:28 PM
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I would like to suggest you try to see a specialist. My boy Blue is diabetic with pancreatitis and gastro intestinal disease. He is now stable but he is emaciated and his diabetes is still not under control despite being under the care of a specialist. These conditions interfere with each other. If it hadn't been for the specialist Blue would have starved to death

He is now on Royal Canine Hypo Allergenic. Hills I/D didn't suit him, he pood out more than went in. He is still emaciated but he's been on RC he'd gained 3kg and come out of the danger zone.

Good luck and Merry Chrsitmas.
Proud owner of Blue - 8 Year old Weimaraner diagnosed in Jan 2010. Unstable diabetes but we are fighting for him.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:51 AM
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My little man Buddy was on hypoallergenic when he was diagnosed with diabetes. He went from 22 pounds down to 14.

Then he got pancreatitis and was switched to the gastro formula.

Then an ultra sound uncovered stones in his bladder and sludge in his bile ducts and he was switched again to Hill something.

Then he had another test which was negative for pancreas problems and that's when I got tired of the crappy food and switched him to grain free Horizon Legacy. That didn't make my vet happy but it sure solved a few problems for Buddy and me.

Then he was diagnosed with proteinuria and I transitioned him to Taste of the Wild (still grain free but lower in protein).

When on the prescription foods, he too left most of it in the yard and was always starving and regulating him was extremely difficult.

In 10+ years, Buddy never never stole food, he only started that with the diabetes. We still have to make sure that there is no food on the coffee table or within reach but at least he looks more satisfied with his food now. Also I always fed him as if he was 22 pounds. During the day, I give him strictly vegetables as treats (zucchini, green peppers, turnips, squash, etc, etc). I also learned that giving him those extra kibbles during the day (cause he was so hungry) played havoc on his numbers.

Sometimes I wonder if those prescription food are pushed on our dogs for financial reasons because you can only get it at the vet's office. After all, if your furry friend cannot enjoy his meals and his walks, what's left.

Do what you feel is right by your boy and what makes him happy and comfortable has now become my mantra

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Old 12-27-2010, 04:20 PM
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I can not get over how helpful and encouraging you all are I am so very thankful.

The latest on the bread a-holic Scoobs is that his urinealysis came back negative for any infections.

As some of you suspected his dose was off. I slowly switched his food from w/d to Blue Buffalo Longevity Mature and he's doing soooo much better. Between that and the dosage being upped to 22 units twice a day, he's definitely more active. The vets couldn't get over his improvement! I told them I switched his food to BB and they agreed that it's working. It just didn't make sense to me that he was starving to death on the current food and yet they had no other recommendations. I realize they get schooled on the prescription brands, but I really had hoped they would expand their knowledge to 'over the counter' brands. I know they mean well, but I still schooled them on my findings.

He was finally able to complete a full bg curve last week!!! It was the first time ever his numbers weren't off the charts.

I know it will be a continued struggle, but the crazy licker is definitely worth it.

I am definitely going to try to space out his meals as well to see if that helps even more.

Thank you all so much!

Good luck with your journeys as well!
Happy Holidays -Patricia and Scoobs
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:12 PM
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Hi Patricia,

That's great news about you and Bread-Boy!

The prescription food rule has been relaxing very very slowly over the years, which I am happy to see.

It's not always easy to know, either, which foods will work well generally and which won't. DCO, one of the prescription foods for diabetics, for example, just hasn't worked out all that well in practice for most dogs I have seen use it while WD has. Maybe it's how the food is processed and so how digestible it is.

For whatever reason, here Blue Buffalo has a good track record so far with diabetic dogs and I try to mention it whenever I can, such as at the private pet food store.

Hope you and Scoobs had a nice holiday - I'm betting you did with a great report on Scoobs.

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Old 12-28-2010, 07:33 AM
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Great news on scoobs!! I'm sure he is on his way to feeling much better and returning to being his old self! Congrats on the decisions you've made. You're in control now
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:59 AM
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Hello everyone!

Hope all is well and your pups are thriving.

Bread boy Scoobs had a full check up on Friday and the vets were beside themselves with how great he looked. His BG curve was right where it needed to be, he's gained 3 pounds (he's close to 70 lbs now) and he's got pep back in his step. He was so proud of himself as he walked in carrying his teddy bear (walked out carrying it too...he's a show off). His liver levels actually went down too. The best they've been since before 2009. They think he's been prediabetic for a while and no one caught it, because they were so sure he had cushings. Oh well, at least we're on the right path for now.

I know there will be struggles along the way, but seeing the old silly Scoobs resurface, makes the journey all the more precious .

Thank you all for your help in getting him to this point.

Have a wonderful day
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:16 AM
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That's fantastic news! I love that he took his teddy bear with. Too cute

Take care,
Patty and Ali 13.5yrs 47lbs diagnosed May '08 Ali earned her wings October 27, 2012, 4 months after diagnosis of a meningioma ~ Time is precious ~
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:28 AM
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Huge congratulations on the improvement! I too love the carrying of the Teddy Bear. That's a wonderful thing to do for a dog - let him carry his security object!

Great to hear from you again; keep us posted!

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